pls dont kill me…

im just curious, in 2023 what exactly does ios have over android.

the only two things i can think of is the longer support and apple ecosystem.

otherwise androids just have far far more features than ios does.

can anyone help me understand if theres more to it or if thats it.

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    10 months ago

    for me is the apple watch mostly. in second place the integration with orher apple devices. I know samsung and google have equivalents but none is as polished, reliable, seamless as apple. And in the smartwatch world, wear os is no match at all. When android will have a proper smartwatch and integration, i will happily switch to Android because i pretty much prefer it for my personal phone.

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    10 months ago

    Is not about the features. Is about the UI. The UI is a lot more comfortable to use and more polished in my opinion. Many features also sound great on paper but I don’t use

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    10 months ago
    • Face ID is superior than on any other android. When I switched to iPhone I was concerned how will I manage without fingerprint sensor, but this thing turned out to be waaaay better.
    • Although many people hate notification center, I actually really like it. You can read ALL messages someone sent to you without opening them, while on Android it shows just like the last 2-3. It helps a lot if you ask me.
    • Apps auto-update. You don’t get those boring notifications “Reddit and 20+ apps are ready to update” like on Android.
    • Everything is just a bit more fluent. You don’t have extra steps and questions for everything like on Android (eg. Do you want to open document with: Word, Google Docs, Google Drive…). iPhone just opens it straight away, and that’s what is important.
    • GPS and location services just work better than on my previous Galaxy S20.
    • On 15 you have noise cancellation for calls.
    • It’s better optimized, hence battery lasts longer.
    • Screen rotate sensor is WAAAAY better on iPhone. I never had a problem that screen randomly turned horizontally like on Samsung. It turns when it really needs to.
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      10 months ago

      To add:

      • On Android, apps install their own notification services to the device which constantly checks for notifications from the developer’s server. Which is honestly bloat.

      • On iOS, developers need to set up their notification servers so that they push notifications towards an Apple server, and then the Apple server handles the rest of the process by sending it to the correct device. Which in result only requires a single “notification daemon” running on an iOS device for the entirety of apps, which also in turn is safer because the process is purely on the hands of Apple.

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      10 months ago

      Notification center: No, I was able to see all the notifications, I think this was a problem with your phone only.
      Apps auto-update: Ehm, no it was silent and done in the background as well?
      Extra steps: Yeah, once you have to choose the app you want and never have to think about it again, on iPhone you have to do this extra step to get an other one you prefer than the one built in.

      For the rest I pretty much agree at 100%.

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        10 months ago
        • Notification center: No, I was able to see all the notifications, I think this was a problem with your phone only.

        I meant more in a sense if you have longer conversation with someone and they send you lets say 10 messages, on iPhone it shows all 10 when you expand them in notification center, Android shows only last few and cuts them.

        As for auto-update, I must say it’s completely opposite for me. On S20 I have every day received notification “Something is ready to update” even though I had enabled auto-update on google store, but iPhone does it in the background, it never bothered me with that.

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      10 months ago

      People hate on me for this, but I miss way less notifications on iOS. I like how it shows everything that I got notified for since I last looked at my phone. Not just jumbled mess of notifications with a 100 little icons that could have been there from 3 seconds ago to 3 days ago.

      They say “dude don’t you ever take care of your notifications”. No, I don’t want to swipe and click each one to get them to go away

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      10 months ago
      • i dont use face id
      • to check a notification i have i need to drag down every time cant see while using the phone
      • not really had to update myself many times
      • slower animations phone feels slow to do some jobs like downloading something.
      • i cant change my default maps to google. Irks me.
      • ?? You have it on android too i guess never had problem on my calls
      • better optimisation my ass u just have lower resolution lol
      • did not notice difference

      Pros

      • air pods pro is just the best
      • typing under rain is much much comfort
      • haptics are so good. They feel real.
      • feels expensive in hand i enjoy using the phone
      • less useless apps

      Cons for me

      • cant close and open location fast i literally had to create url shortcut lol never done such thing in android
      • front facing camera is awful and cant close deep fusion
      • 9 gag app is awful for me i cant open links directly from comments. Need to copy paste and delete.
      • need back gesture really really hard this phone. In order to cancel something and keyboard i needed to use my second hand.

      Edit: i use 15pm my first ios device.

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    10 months ago

    The lack of a proper backup system and device interoperability is enough for me to never go back to Android. iOS is just completely untouched in this regard.

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    10 months ago

    Better garbage collection implementation in a better language. Every advantage ios has over android is due to decisions made at the start of these projects. iOS is smoother, more reliable, quicker, efficient. This software will always take less energy and be really really reliable because the developers put the hard work of using automatic reference counts.

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    10 months ago

    At this point it’s basically only personal preference.

    There were times when iPhones were objectively better than most androids. That was rather in the earlier days.

    IMO since 2017/2018 Androids which are in the same price range as iPhones offer the same or more features while also being of good build quality and software quality.

    Regarding features; Androids tend to offer more features, but in 99% these are rather experimental and are often not even transferred to the successor.

    The only consistent feature I can think of is personalization, and googles AI progress with their current Pixels.

    One could argue that Androids are a tad more interesting, since you can do so much stuff through 3rd party apps or by default, or you have crazy camera setups and SPens and whatnot, but in the end it’s not an advantage if you won’t use those features or if they are messy.

    So yeah, if you want an S-Pen or a crazy 200mp 10x space zoom Setup you obviously won’t go for iPhone.

    I personally prefer the simplicity and mature design language of iPhones.

    But If a future Android offers a feature I deperately want I’d switch again. And also switch back. I don’t lock myself to a brand.

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    10 months ago

    The thing is, when you say “longer support” and “apple ecosystem” you are already talking about a ton of features equivalent to the amount Android provides. Except the ones on iOS are all built-in.

    The coherency of software and hardware is a world of it’s own. There are specific features of every device and every new release which blow people’s minds (Vision Pro reference). Some say Apple didn’t invent these “features”, and some of these claims are correct. But innovation is not the thing special about Apple products, it’s consistency. Shit works beyond expectations, and Apple designs them in a way far better than any competitor. For example, Face-ID as one of the replies said.

    The simple and minimalist design of the OS, which is worth opening a paragraph for. Honestly, compared to Apple OSes, the design mentality of Windows and Android feels like they were quickly glued with things during a rainy night of 1980 and left like that. Sure you can change those on Windows and Android, but then it’s bloat, which is an unacceptable term for Apple devices.

    Also system specific things such as absence of garbage collection and using ARC instead (which is one of the reasons why iPhones come with half the ram compared to Android devices yet provide the same performance), the power management and processor efficiency, the unmatched security for both the device and ecosystem. Also neither iOS nor MacOS come with built-in adware compared to Windows and some versions of Android. Nor nothing on Apple OSes can use trackers without your consent.

    As for the ecosystem itself, for me, Airdrop and Handoff are one of the best things. If you own a Windows pc and Android device, you’d normally need to setup a bluetooth file sharing server to send a jpeg from one device to another and god knows if it’d work. But if you own a Mac bundled with an iPhone, forget sharing whatever file type you want to whatever application; you can just “copy” anything on one device and instantly “paste” it to the other device, at crazy speeds independent of your bluetooth or wifi tx rate thanks to the built-in Airdrop Receiver which uses P2P tech. (Unlike a FTP server, you don’t even need a router as a middleman to use Airdrop).

    Oh also, there’s this another topic about what can you accomplish with a jailbroken iPhone, but I won’t write it here.

    TL;DR: iOS be screaming “QUALITYYYY” all over.

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    10 months ago

    For me it’s a few things:

    The hardware. I find it more polished. The camera is fast and consistent. The processors are far beyond anything in an android phone. The ecosystem around accessories is just way more built out.

    Software fit and finish. Any time I use android the apps and experience just seem a little more janky. iOS is where the money is for dev, and you can tell they put more care into it. Also, I think it is a more predictable platform for developers, so it’s easier to spend time polishing an app. I enjoy photography. The iPhone has a huge ecosystem of great photo apps that interact directly with the built in system photo library. Developers tend to support Apples features and APIs very quick. For example. Apple has Shortcuts, which can be very useful for automating tasks. Android fans will be quick to point out Tasker is similar. The difference is that app developers have embraced Shortcuts and added tons of hook for it. So while Tasker may be technically more capable, in use I haven’t found it to be so.

    Apples ecosystem of devices just work together so well. If you use a Mac, iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods, iPad, AppleTV, and HomePods you get a very nice (not perfect) integrated system.

    At the end of the day both are perfectly serviceable. So pick the one that fits your style better. I’ve used both extensively and always find myself coming back to Apple.

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      10 months ago

      Software fit and finish. Any time I use android the apps and experience just seem a little more janky. iOS is where the money is for dev, and you can tell they put more care into it. Also, I think it is a more predictable platform for developers, so it’s easier to spend time polishing an app

      oh wow u mind elaborating on that, how different is the in app experience in iphone vs in android? like for example apps like youtube, insta, twitter and such. the only thing im aware of is, that in social media apps the in app cameras are better in iphone. but is there anything more than that?

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        10 months ago

        Just take the Reddit app for example. I just had the Pixel 8 Pro along with my iPhone 15 Pro. On the Pixel, the scrolling on the Reddit app was very stuttery and janky. Incredibly annoying. On the iPhone it is very smooth. That is just one example.

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        10 months ago

        On my old Samsung, I just found everything and especially animations to be janky to the point where I went into the developer settings to speed them up

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      10 months ago

      Could not have said it any better. Quite frankly the more I fight the return to Android the more and more I just roll my eyes knowing that I will return,

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    10 months ago

    Having jumped to iOS this year (15 pro). There’s only a few things that I see making a difference.

    - Ecosytem (macbook stuff is nice but, at least for me, nothing extraordinary)
    - You can tell apps are developed with iOS in mind first
    - Resale value?
    - Besides that, experience has been basically the same and I haven’t had that “wow amazing” moment so far

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      10 months ago

      You can tell apps are developed with iOS in mind first

      what all things in the app make it better in iphone compared to an android?

      also what android did u jumpship from and how is the stability in the iphone compared to the android

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    10 months ago

    You can back up your iPhone completely to a computer and restore it on a new iPhone. Android has nothing like that.

    Day one updates. No waiting. Only the Pixel is like this.

    Accessory ecosystem is really good. The iPhone is the default for most things in design and due to the limited number of models, most things fit around an iPhone better.

    If you have a Mac or iPad, iMessage on those is nice and various cross device features are also nice.

    Apple isn’t an advertising company, so they at least pretend to care about keeping your data secure. And more recently they’ve enabled features where if you don’t safeguard your passphrase, you will not get back into your account.

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    10 months ago

    iOS just works for me, and most of my colleagues are also iOS users so sharing docs is easier.

    I do have an android tho, I used to like customizing but nowadays I just slap on the Niagara launcher and call it a day.