Looking at the advantages, the 7800xt has:
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10% lower price
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4 more gigs of vram
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6% better raster performance.
The 4070 has:
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Better frame gen
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Better upscaling via dlss
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Better drivers
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Better rt performance
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CUDA for the few people that actually need it.
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Better power efficiency.
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The ability to use both dlss and fsr. If a game just has dlss, amd users are screwed.
All in all I think the AMD card is still the underdog based in advantages and needs to be at least 15% cheaper in order to sway buyers to team red. For just a $50 price difference, the team green advantages are too stacked imo.
Edit: this is of course in the US market. Every market is different.
4070 should’ve never been a $600 card. 192-bit, 12GB, 200W TDP, performs dimilarly to the previous generation 80-series card - it’s a 4060. Not even a 4060Ti, but a 4060. People are suckers for paying $600 for this overpriced piece of trash, and AMD is equally as bad for pricing their cards in accordance to Nvidia’s.
Even adjusting for inflation, taking the $300 1060 6GB from the 2016 as reference, this card should’ve been $380 at launch.
When was the last time Nvidia sold the 104 die as a 60 non-Ti?
It’s reasonable to say the 4070 should’ve been called a 4060 Ti, but saying it should’ve been a $380 4060 is overstating things a bit.
Yea, those days are over. All we can hope for now is for competition to at least mitigate the price creep
Overstated. Has there ever been a non-ti 60 card that matched the previous generation 80 card?
That’s what sort of sucked my interest out of upgrading. You’re paying a premium for nothing… the cards are almost getting worse and relying more on shit like upscaling so much.
Calling it a 4060 is pretty silly. I mean, it’s almost 2x faster leap from generation to generation normally isn’t that high.
You’re wildly overstating things. The only time a 60 class successor got close to an 83% uplift was the 960->1060, at 72% via techpowerup, and even then it was still on the same die (x06), the 4070 is on the x04 die which has been exclusively reserved for 60ti class and above cards since Maxwell. So by both performance and specs this is way off.
You could easily argue it’s a 60ti card, but suggesting it’s actually a 60 class card in spite of all this (and should also therefore be <$350) make no sense.