AMD Hawk Point: first AMD Ryzen 8000 APUs named The list of upcoming Zen4 refresh SKUs for laptops is expanding. There was a leak recently featuring the flagship AMD Ryzen 8000 APU for laptops. The leak did not disclose the names of the processors, however, it is possible that we can make a reasonable guess […]
and then zen5 laptops will conveniently not launch until 2025, so that they don’t end up with a bunch of 25% better performing laptops advertised in the spec sheets only by having the 3rd digit one number higher than other models
They csn refresh them next year, so no problem
A 9840h would be slower than a 9750H
I had to look up that chart yo name them. That’s how bad it is.
How is that relevant? A refresh of a 8750 would be 9750 as it’s the year that changes.
It’s not my fault you don’t know how the new naming system works yet. Someone who didn’t know how the old naming system works would also have to consult something.
You think the general public will know?
It has always been first higher number representing latest generation.
Not the 3rd
No it has not.
It was amazing when zen3 mobile came out and they had even second numbers be zen3 and odd zen3 numbers be zen2. :D Except 9 was ofc zen3.
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-5000-mobile-laptop-architecture/
5800, 5600 and 5400 zen3
5700, 5500 and 5300 zen2
That was soo much better, right?
Yes.
R7 5800 8 core > R7 5700 8core
R5 5600 6 core > R5 5500 6 core
R3 5400 4 core > R3 5300 4 core
You quite literally gave the best answer of why older names were better.
No, you said first number was always last generation. That was pure ignorance and now you are moving goalposts and trying to win by arguing something else.
New names have both the release year and generation in them. You see it in a glance. You see 9840 is zen 4, so you do not accidentally buy it f you only want zen 5.
The two last numbers tell you the product segment, and the second number is how high it is in that segment. Just learn the system.
It still does.The 5000 is still better than 3000.
That’s just facts. Also its a massive change that in the 5000 series, both zen 2 and zen3 are made on the same 7nm.
You cannot say the same for new naming.
7020 and 7030 is on 7nm processes (6nm and 7nm). The exact same as ryzen 5000 and 6000
7040 is on 5nm processes (4nm and 5nm)
They don’t belong in the same category at all. The nodes make it quite obvious. They are selling you old and significantly less efficient nodes.
The name is a way to sell old zen2/zen3 cpus as brand new.
Why do you think this is only for laptops and desktop haven’t gotten this?
Because you average consumer mostly buys a laptop over desktop and they will have no idea.