• r2k-in-the-vortex@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Yes, it is. But as you might imagine, an export ban on a consumer item is hardly watertight. Anyone can buy one and simply walk over the border. Who is there to stop that?

    That’s fine. All other export controls leak too. Export control in the end is just an extra barrier you force a country to jump over and that extra cost causes them to be uncompeditive on global market. They will still be plenty compeditive on local market with their parallel imported consumer cards.

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      10 months ago

      It securing the quantity need that would make this ban hurt, this ban can be effective if it kills Chinese enterprise ability for getting enough cards in a short enough time. And this is not even with considering middle men cost, I am betting on middle men making it shipping a card will cost the same as the card itself, we have seen this during the crypto boom.

      The us government is trying to kill Chinese ability to compete economically. Not the ability to compete outright.

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        10 months ago

        It’s not about obstructing China economically it’s about preserving military supremacy so long as China is regarded as a threat to the international order. As long as China would insist on ruling Taiwan over the objections of the democratically elected Taiwanese government that means China is seeking to export authoritarian rule. That’s contrary to the advancement of democracy around the globe. China’s treatment of Hong Kong and Uighurs further evidences China’s antidemocratic tendencies. The reason to obstruct China from getting cutting edge AI and microchips is the same as the reason to obstruct Nazi Germany from enriching uranium, it’s not otherwise about the economics of it.

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      10 months ago

      Correct but they need thousands if not tens of thousands of cards. Shipping a few im suitcases isn’t going cut it.

      • r2k-in-the-vortex@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Give it enough money and the thousands of suitcases are going to organize themselves. Don’t underestimate how massive sneakernets can get, bulk of all baby formula consumed in China has been supplied like this, because nobody in China trusts to buy baby formula from local Chinese businessmen after the 2008 scandal.