• Lechowski@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Chips in warfare are shitty embedded processors that handle real time sensors, not 500W heaters like the 4090.

    They just don’t want China to be competitive in the AI market. It has happened before with the Marshall Plan and it will happen in the future.

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      1 year ago

      And with the way RISC-V is shaping up, China could arguable have state of the art embedded processors within 5 years anyway.

      • i_eat_da_poops@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        I don’t know why you got bombed but people seem to heavily disregard the fact that China is upcoming for a reason.

        They are super populated meaning more manpower for lower wages, in addition, they have a very strict education system and the student also take it very seriously too. So now add the two together and you will see that they are actually progressing at a rate that’s compounded in comparison to the Western hemisphere.

        Provided that they’re currently still behind, this however is not set in stone.

        I won’t try to guess and say they will overtake the states any time soon but the chances of this happening is far greater than people would like to believe.

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          1 year ago

          Non-technical sub coupled with anti-China mindset. The thing about RISC-V is that its success doesn’t even depend on China, it’s open source hardware and a bunch of other nations and many western companies are also invested in it, making its success more or less a question of timeline.

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            1 year ago

            1.4 billion vs the US 332 million… That’s a lot of genius to be tapped vs the US.

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              1 year ago

              In a country where logic and sense are actively discouraged? And obedience encouraged? Unlikely.

              • i_eat_da_poops@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                Well just compare China to the States for a second.

                China’s population exceeds 1 billion, where as the USA is closer to 300-400 million.

                Now let’s go back to exactly what you mentioned, enforcement of obedience. This strategy may not be the most ethical but you cannot discredit the fact that it’s been keeping these 1 billion plus citizens in check.

                Now let’s compare that with the USA who only has about 1/4th of China’s population. A lot of states have currently succumbed drastic increase in crime rates and murders. China barely has these kind of events anymore.

                With that said though, both sides have their ups and downs but my main point is that a lot of people don’t even know about the living conditions of Canadians, their own neighbours. This can only mean they are also ignorant of China (outside of propaganda).

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              1 year ago

              I mean, yes, that’s true. However:

              1. Illegal immigration out of China into the U.S. is at a record high.

              2. 富二代 are also buying real estate in Japan and elsewhere as the RMB continues to depreciate against major world currencies.

              These will not prevent breakthroughs from occurring but there are major headwinds for the Chinese, especially when many of their better-off citizens are looking to leave.

              • i_eat_da_poops@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                I agree with you that a lot of the big players are trying to exit China. It’s a real thing that’s been occurring and even more so now with the recent demands for what was suppose to be water under the bridge, by the CCP.

                In terms of the new and upcoming geniuses and/or proteges though, that may not be the case, yet.

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      1 year ago

      Correct. And that’s good. We don’t want China to win the race for AI, because to win AI is to win the world.

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      1 year ago

      Bruh are you actually serious? How do you think a naturally unstable fighter (meaning you can’t take your hands off the stick lick a regular plane and it will self correct) is able to be flown? Fly by wire and sensor fusion/then generating that information on screen, while being connected to all other f35s/some lesser fighters (and ai controlled side drone wingmen) takes a huge amount of processing power. Imagine the f35s see through aircraft helmet? You’re right, it probably runs on a 1080ti

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      1 year ago

      Supercomputing has a lot of military applications behind the scenes as well - simulation (especially for stuff like nukes that can’t easily be tested due to test ban treaties), sigint, encryption cracking, and obviously AI has a lot of potential uses as well.

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        Even before that there was the “Iraqi super computer” myth where it was believed Saddam was hoarding thousands of PS2s to circumvent sanctions on computer hardware since it could be imported as a toy for children.

        Strap a dozen PS2s together and you have a missile guidance system or something to that effect.

        It gained a lot of traction in the US and I’m pretty sure Sony released a statement absolving themselves of any wrong doings after the consoles were purchased.

        Wild time.

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        Man it’s absolutely wild how the CELL processor went from the next big thing to vanishing everywhere in the space of 5 years.

        Fun fact about the PS3: They originally had the intention to use a second CELL processor for dedicated graphics, until they realised it was too costly and also didn’t work too well as a graphics chip. This is the reason why they shoehorned a modified Nvidia 6700 in there. This is speculation, but it’s also probably why they went with dedicated memory for the CPU and the GPU rather than unified memory like the Xbox 360 did.