• nhh@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Their phones are ridiculously expensive middle tier specced machines.

    If you want to be taken seriously, please offer better hardware at more reasonable prices.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, give us high-end, sustainable, and ethical stuff at low prices while successfully competing against big tech. And I want my phone powered by fairy dust!

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        1 year ago

        Yes and if Steve Jobs thought like you, you would be typing this in a blackberry.

        Of course this can be done. Look at Framework. They are pushing out laptops that have most of the characteristics I am talking about. They are slightly more expensive than an equivalent Lenovo.

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          1 year ago

          Did you really just simp for Apple while unironically calling another brand “ridiculously expensive”? Also, Framework is nice but they don’t seem to specifically care about ethically sourcing their materials.

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            1 year ago

            Simp for apple? You just assumed a bunch of stuff. My phone is a Samsung s20. It cost 400.

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              1 year ago

              Are you ChatGPT or do you just naturally not care about what you wrote one comment ago?

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                1 year ago

                I am not going to argue with stupid. Connect the dots yourself.

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        1 year ago

        Theres your problem with Fairphone (and Framework laptop). All those modularity costs $$$ AND made sacrifices for sake of repairability. For that price, it’s just not a good value.

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      1 year ago

      With phones like Fairphone, you’re buying a lot more into an ideology than an actual product for the price. Are there other phones that are better specced and cheaper? Yes. Are those phones created in a more ethical manner by lowering emissions and not using conflict materials? More than likely no.

      On top of this, you’re also getting a modular repairable phone and 5 years of support - which for mid level android is a miracle.

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      1 year ago

      Makes you wonder how expensive other phones would be if they’d pay fair wages to their factory workers…

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      1 year ago

      please offer better hardware at more reasonable prices

      That means glued together phones which are not repairable made with questionable practices, which is what everyone else is doing.

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          1 year ago

          No the rubber gaskets are for water proofing, the glue is for holding things together without requiring dead space on the PCB for screw holes or dead space inside the case for plastic standoffs

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            1 year ago

            The rubber gaskets are glued on. The glue holds the battery, which has pull strops which allows you to remove it easily.

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        1 year ago

        Not condoning child labor, but in these countries, aren’t the children better off with the labor option over no option? Just wondering how these children survive otherwise?

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          1 year ago

          fairphone is providing them with another option. so your argument just isn’t relevant. and i wasn’t talking about jobs, i was talking about slavery. they couldn’t work a job if they wanted to, or go to school, or whatever. child slaves make clothing and electronics for the west to suppress prices.

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        1 year ago

        This is cool. So I suppose you are posting this from a fair phone, or are you a hypocrite?

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          1 year ago

          yes i am lol. but thats irrelevant. i don’t want the best bang for buck, because i know it fucks over the environment and people working on it.

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      1 year ago

      If you take 5 years of warranty and 8 years of SW support into consideration, the 700€ pricetag is actually very competitive. How much money do you spend in the same time frame on other smartphones? 1000? 2000?

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        1 year ago

        Less than 700? You can get a equally good phone for 350€ and upgrade after 3 years and at least the second generation is gonna be better than the Fairphone. The only point for the FP is that it has a headphone jack, which I really like, but apart from that its cheaper to go with cheap midrange phone and upgrade after 2 1/2 or 3 years

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        1 year ago

        I got a Samsung s20 for 400. The s23 is right now for the same price on Google fi