the one advantage of dispos is that they can crank the fuck up on the flavor and ice/menthol which refillables are having a hard time to replicate due to coil life.
which is also why current teens are addicted to vapes, dispos in particular.
Uhmm then buy more coils and replace them for 3-5 bucks? Duh. Only really dark vape blends will mess with a coil. My peach flavored juice kind of a yellow color will last me 2-3 weeks usually. And box mods are usually about 80-90 watts. The only difference is alotta disposables use salt nicotine. But they have box mods for those now to. I personally hate salt nic as you get way more nicotine way faster and can over do it easily.
Teens go for dispos because they’re simpler to use and easier to hide. I think dispos are also more appealing for someone who is curious about vaping which could be a kid, or someone who’s trying to quit smoking. Not everyone wants to make a 100$ purchase on their first vape. the regulation needs to be tightened but I really think this will just increase the black market for vapes, unfortunately.
The thing is unlike a few years ago you don’t need to spend 100$ for a good refillable vape. There are excellent refillable pod Systems for below 20usd now.
I’ve been using a nespresso for 3 years that cost me $35. Disposables are so much more expensive in the long run. It costs me maybe $25 a month for coils and juice compared to maybe $20 a week in disposables.
That’s just not true… How many people have you spoke to about their reasoning for purchasing disposables? Because I can tell you, from experience, that the answer will almost always be because of the flavor/how the vape hits.
Most popular vapes nowadays aren’t even hard to use either, just fill up a pod and you’re ready to go. In Canada, the STLTH is one of the most popular ones and all it takes is clicking a prefilled pod into the device just like a juul. And in terms of “old-school” vapes, I haven’t seen somebody making their own coils since like 2018 so I don’t think high barriers to entry are keeping people on disposables.
That’s why RBAs exist. You’ve got a refillable vape and a roll of steel wire = endless coils. Takes like 2 minutes to make a new one and they cost fractions of pennies.
You’ll get more flavour out of them than any disposable.
The slow demise of Squonkers is upsetting to say the least. Mesh coil RDAs are easily the best flavor I’ve ever had, and usually stomp disposables. But most people have never tried a mesh rebuildable atomizer.
Not enough ppl mention this, disposable vape flavors are not only better than most juices I’ve tried, but the flavor is also way denser. I love icy menthols, and I’ve tried so hard to match the disposables with what’s available in my small town and I just can’t.
Luckily they’re so much more expensive, so there’s no way I’d switch permanently. Just snag once every few months to mix it up
I felt the same way, I’ve went from smokes to vape but nothing quite hit the spot like disposables (although I’d rarely buy them for environmental reasons).
However, I’ve found the Vaporesso XROS 3 is a game changer. The 0.6ohm pods along with liquids from the likes of Elfliq, Bar Juice etc is 100% the same as disposables (in fact Elfliq is the same company as the disposable Elf Bar) but completely refillable, rechargeable.
Best bit is the device is dirt cheap! Now I have zero interest in cigarettes any more, this hits the spot
I’d recommend the Luxe XR or Luxe XR Max with the older X pods that have the coil preinstalled over the Xros3.
Bigger and better battery life 1000mAH vs 1500/2800mAh.
The only maybe negative difference is weight 45 Grams vs 77/124 Grams. I currently use the standard XR and I don’t feel the weight of it at all in my pockets or in use, it’s extremely lightweight even when filled.
I’m going to give the XR Max a go when the battery on my standard XR kicks the bucket and isn’t holding charge the way it used to.
I was intrigued by the Luxe XR but I thought perhaps since it looked much higher power it wouldn’t be as much like the experience of what disposables are like, what do you reckon? If I got a Luxe XR, what difference would I notice (besides battery life)?
The power and wattage vary depending what ohm coils you use so that shouldn’t really be a huge issue. 1.2 = 8-12W, 0.8 = 12-16W, 0.6 = 20-26W and 0.4 = 26-32W.
For an MTL experience it’s the 0.8 for the X pods and you can control how tight of a draw it is by rotating the pod.
If you want 1.0-1.2 you need to use the replaceable coil pods. Personally I tried the 1.2s when I first got the vape and did not enjoy the experience as the flavour was non existent and they seemed to burn very easily.
If you stick with the X pods with built in coils you won’t see much of a difference other than battery life and not being inhaled activated rather it’s a fire key.
The battery life alone was enough for me as it’s literally half a battery more than the Xross3 and being able to switch between different vaping styles as I reduce my Nictoine levels is a big plus.
Trust me, the XROS 3 Pod system is as close as you will get, it’s 100% indistinguishable from disposables to me, providing you use the right liquids. Try to get Elfliq or Bar Juice liquids and you’re set, all their flavours are the same flavours you get with disposables.
Recently bought a refillable salt nic vape and was pretty bummed by the difference in flavor. I bought a few different flavors but none of them are as satisfying.
Disposables are just too good, they’re disposable so they can add extra sweetener and the cotton inside has had a lot more time to soak into the cotton and build up on the coils. They’re expensive though, and I switched to save money.
I’ve tried a ton and the vapes I’ve found to hit decent enough are the Vapresso Xros 2 and 3 and Voopoo Drag 4. They’re still not as good, but they’re serviceable with a few juices I’ve found and only run me about $20-30 for a month, months and a half.
the one advantage of dispos is that they can crank the fuck up on the flavor and ice/menthol which refillables are having a hard time to replicate due to coil life.
which is also why current teens are addicted to vapes, dispos in particular.
Uhmm then buy more coils and replace them for 3-5 bucks? Duh. Only really dark vape blends will mess with a coil. My peach flavored juice kind of a yellow color will last me 2-3 weeks usually. And box mods are usually about 80-90 watts. The only difference is alotta disposables use salt nicotine. But they have box mods for those now to. I personally hate salt nic as you get way more nicotine way faster and can over do it easily.
Teens go for dispos because they’re simpler to use and easier to hide. I think dispos are also more appealing for someone who is curious about vaping which could be a kid, or someone who’s trying to quit smoking. Not everyone wants to make a 100$ purchase on their first vape. the regulation needs to be tightened but I really think this will just increase the black market for vapes, unfortunately.
The thing is unlike a few years ago you don’t need to spend 100$ for a good refillable vape. There are excellent refillable pod Systems for below 20usd now.
I have the geekvape obelisk U now… they’re not super reliable but only 20 bucks, 35 with juice to get started.
I’ve been using a nespresso for 3 years that cost me $35. Disposables are so much more expensive in the long run. It costs me maybe $25 a month for coils and juice compared to maybe $20 a week in disposables.
That’s just not true… How many people have you spoke to about their reasoning for purchasing disposables? Because I can tell you, from experience, that the answer will almost always be because of the flavor/how the vape hits.
Most popular vapes nowadays aren’t even hard to use either, just fill up a pod and you’re ready to go. In Canada, the STLTH is one of the most popular ones and all it takes is clicking a prefilled pod into the device just like a juul. And in terms of “old-school” vapes, I haven’t seen somebody making their own coils since like 2018 so I don’t think high barriers to entry are keeping people on disposables.
I haven’t made my own coils in a while… but I just buy them pre-made for my rda.
That’s why RBAs exist. You’ve got a refillable vape and a roll of steel wire = endless coils. Takes like 2 minutes to make a new one and they cost fractions of pennies.
You’ll get more flavour out of them than any disposable.
The slow demise of Squonkers is upsetting to say the least. Mesh coil RDAs are easily the best flavor I’ve ever had, and usually stomp disposables. But most people have never tried a mesh rebuildable atomizer.
Just get a Boro instead. It’s the best of both worlds. You get something akin to squonk performance in a pod system form factor.
Is it good for mid-wattage sub-ohm builds (for reference I run a Profile RDA with a .14ohm coil at 60 watts)?
Not enough ppl mention this, disposable vape flavors are not only better than most juices I’ve tried, but the flavor is also way denser. I love icy menthols, and I’ve tried so hard to match the disposables with what’s available in my small town and I just can’t.
Luckily they’re so much more expensive, so there’s no way I’d switch permanently. Just snag once every few months to mix it up
I felt the same way, I’ve went from smokes to vape but nothing quite hit the spot like disposables (although I’d rarely buy them for environmental reasons).
However, I’ve found the Vaporesso XROS 3 is a game changer. The 0.6ohm pods along with liquids from the likes of Elfliq, Bar Juice etc is 100% the same as disposables (in fact Elfliq is the same company as the disposable Elf Bar) but completely refillable, rechargeable.
Best bit is the device is dirt cheap! Now I have zero interest in cigarettes any more, this hits the spot
I’d recommend the Luxe XR or Luxe XR Max with the older X pods that have the coil preinstalled over the Xros3.
Bigger and better battery life 1000mAH vs 1500/2800mAh.
The only maybe negative difference is weight 45 Grams vs 77/124 Grams. I currently use the standard XR and I don’t feel the weight of it at all in my pockets or in use, it’s extremely lightweight even when filled.
I’m going to give the XR Max a go when the battery on my standard XR kicks the bucket and isn’t holding charge the way it used to.
I was intrigued by the Luxe XR but I thought perhaps since it looked much higher power it wouldn’t be as much like the experience of what disposables are like, what do you reckon? If I got a Luxe XR, what difference would I notice (besides battery life)?
The power and wattage vary depending what ohm coils you use so that shouldn’t really be a huge issue. 1.2 = 8-12W, 0.8 = 12-16W, 0.6 = 20-26W and 0.4 = 26-32W.
For an MTL experience it’s the 0.8 for the X pods and you can control how tight of a draw it is by rotating the pod.
If you want 1.0-1.2 you need to use the replaceable coil pods. Personally I tried the 1.2s when I first got the vape and did not enjoy the experience as the flavour was non existent and they seemed to burn very easily.
If you stick with the X pods with built in coils you won’t see much of a difference other than battery life and not being inhaled activated rather it’s a fire key.
The battery life alone was enough for me as it’s literally half a battery more than the Xross3 and being able to switch between different vaping styles as I reduce my Nictoine levels is a big plus.
I’m gonna try this cause there really is nothing like them.
I just wish there was a pod system that tasted as good. It’s not like there’s a reason to have a new battery for each disposable.
Trust me, the XROS 3 Pod system is as close as you will get, it’s 100% indistinguishable from disposables to me, providing you use the right liquids. Try to get Elfliq or Bar Juice liquids and you’re set, all their flavours are the same flavours you get with disposables.
Recently bought a refillable salt nic vape and was pretty bummed by the difference in flavor. I bought a few different flavors but none of them are as satisfying.
Disposables are just too good, they’re disposable so they can add extra sweetener and the cotton inside has had a lot more time to soak into the cotton and build up on the coils. They’re expensive though, and I switched to save money.
I’ve tried a ton and the vapes I’ve found to hit decent enough are the Vapresso Xros 2 and 3 and Voopoo Drag 4. They’re still not as good, but they’re serviceable with a few juices I’ve found and only run me about $20-30 for a month, months and a half.
What juices do you recommend?