Its not the level of ergonomics as dedicated controllers imo, but its not possible with the weight and the screen in between the joysticks :).
But, i find it very nice given the weight, still tiring after prolonged use. Switch is less ergonomic with small controllers and button placement, but after longer periods of gaming it feels better compared to Steam Deck. You cant mask the weight forever.
using bsp-d8 with an iphone, is absolutely the most comfortable i have ever gamed with a screen between controllers. there’s not many games you can run on iphone unfortunately, so steam deck wins by a huge margin. but playing, say dead cells, i def prefer my iphone bsp-d8 combo
For myself, and 90% of the adult population,the switch is muuuch more painful to use. It physically hurts being made to use the joycons after an hour or so, they really start cutting into me.
For the Switch, check out the Hori Split Pad Pro and Split Pad Comfort. They really fix the ergonomic issues with the stock Joycons. Downside is no rumble, gyro, wireless or NFC.
I almost forgot, it’s been a while since I actually used it in handheld. I curled my fingers in behind and let it rest against the nails instead of trying to hold it normally to prevent this. Just traded one pain for another lol
I have a switch lite and its a dream to use. I do have smaller hands and was a bass player so my fingers are fairly flexible but the flat switch doesn’t bother me. The SD is more ergonomic but the weight is an issue. Especially as it slips down in your hands over longer play sessions and I always end up accidentally paying the back buttons so can’t have them mapped, but I don’t struggle with the small switch at all
It’s the inner metal frame that adds a lot unnecessary weight. I’m not sure why they need it. If you open up an Ally, they get away with not having one. Moreover, I don’t even think it helps the structural integrity of the Steam Deck because both LCD and OLED versions I own has shell misalignment and weird creaky issues.
Its not the level of ergonomics as dedicated controllers imo, but its not possible with the weight and the screen in between the joysticks :).
But, i find it very nice given the weight, still tiring after prolonged use. Switch is less ergonomic with small controllers and button placement, but after longer periods of gaming it feels better compared to Steam Deck. You cant mask the weight forever.
using bsp-d8 with an iphone, is absolutely the most comfortable i have ever gamed with a screen between controllers. there’s not many games you can run on iphone unfortunately, so steam deck wins by a huge margin. but playing, say dead cells, i def prefer my iphone bsp-d8 combo
For myself, and 90% of the adult population,the switch is muuuch more painful to use. It physically hurts being made to use the joycons after an hour or so, they really start cutting into me.
For the Switch, check out the Hori Split Pad Pro and Split Pad Comfort. They really fix the ergonomic issues with the stock Joycons. Downside is no rumble, gyro, wireless or NFC.
For me its the cramping. With the Switch having a flat back, long handheld sessions tend to cramp my hands up.
I almost forgot, it’s been a while since I actually used it in handheld. I curled my fingers in behind and let it rest against the nails instead of trying to hold it normally to prevent this. Just traded one pain for another lol
Same, deck is better for me
I have massive hands and the Switch is almost unusable after an hour. the tendons in my thumb start to protest pretty quickly.
Try the Hori split pad or similar third party joycons
Definitely agree the Switch is less comfortable. Especially with the official Joycons. Some third party controllers do improve the experience though.
I have a switch lite and its a dream to use. I do have smaller hands and was a bass player so my fingers are fairly flexible but the flat switch doesn’t bother me. The SD is more ergonomic but the weight is an issue. Especially as it slips down in your hands over longer play sessions and I always end up accidentally paying the back buttons so can’t have them mapped, but I don’t struggle with the small switch at all
It’s funny though as the Switch would also hurt over time due to the tiny joypads.
But yeah I wish it were lighter, I like the size but it’s just a bit too heavy. I hope the Steam Deck 2 aims for 400g.
I wonder what the heaviest components are atm.
It’s the inner metal frame that adds a lot unnecessary weight. I’m not sure why they need it. If you open up an Ally, they get away with not having one. Moreover, I don’t even think it helps the structural integrity of the Steam Deck because both LCD and OLED versions I own has shell misalignment and weird creaky issues.
Probably the cooling and the vibration / haptic motors I’d say. I doubt SD 2 will be much lighter.
I actually have seen pics of the oled being as light as 320g
Probably the battery