• auradragon1@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Whenever I see people saying that China is evil on Reddit, I always think that they’re just humans working really hard to survive and provide for their families. The political stuff is mostly about preventing China from competing in industries that developed countries compete in. It’s a way to prevent China from moving up the value chain. Developed countries don’t want China to produce chips, software, AI, electric cars, etc. They just want China to be the world’s factory forever.

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      1 year ago

      You’re strawmanning this thing so hard.

      The reason the US is putting up barriers on China is due to them supporting Russia in Ukraine, running the worlds largest cyberwarfare program (2nd is Russia), supporting North Korea, having extreme anti-competitive laws, IP theft at a scale never seen before, and their countless human rights violations.

      A simple example: TikTok is the most popular app in the US. Instagram, Facebook, and Google are all illegal in China.

      China complains about the West not wanting to compete, but they have literally outlawed Western competition in every single area. Tesla in China is 51% owned by the Chinese. It’s insanity.

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        1 year ago

        Here’s the top upvoted story on HackerNews right now.

        One of the greatest user interface disasters in history https://octodon.social/@jalefkowit/111490485825183949

        Basically, US Navy ship had bad UX for a system and shot down an Iran Airliner that killed 290 people.

        Here’s the first comment. It’s spot on.

        Everything’s possible, but there would be no debate about UI mistakes if it was Iran shooting down a US plane. They would’ve done because they are evil by nature, or at least perceived as such. In that case the media and the public buys into its own reality, but of course the UI discussion could be a distraction from the public maybe starting to question if that’s actually the reality.

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          1 year ago

          Absolutely, but either that’s true, or it’s just the US showing that they are better at PR than their adversaries.

          Either way, it doesn’t have much to do with how the entire world should be putting up barriers for China to do trade. It’s simply not fair that the worlds 2nd largest economy is closed off to foreign competition.

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            1 year ago

            It’s simply not fair that the worlds 2nd largest economy is closed off to foreign competition.

            I just went to China. Countless foreign brands everywhere. Audi and BMW sell more cars in China than in Europe and the US. McDonalds everywhere. Starbucks everywhere.

            Meanwhile, the US is doing everything possible to prevent Chinese companies from competing with American car makers, solar panel producers, 5G equipment makers, phone competitors, etc.