• BossHogGA@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Windows developers and users don’t know or care about Arm Windows. This has nothing to do with Apple.

    It’s a chicken-and-egg problem. Microsoft doesn’t really care. Users don’t really care. There isn’t much incentive for the ecosystem to evolve to Arm.

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      10 months ago

      Users don’t care about the processor architecture but they definitely care about battery life and the word is getting around. I work in a mostly platform agnostic environment where the worker can choose whatever they want and the Macbook uptake has been enormous over the last few years, so much so they are planning on phasing Windows out entirely in favor of Chromebooks and Macbooks (both backed by Citrix virtual apps for legacy applications).

      If Microsoft ignores this inevitable evolution away from x86 twenty years from now it will comparable to when Ballmer laughed at the iPhone.

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      10 months ago

      Right, what gives apple the advantage is they have to put all their eggs in a basket every time. But in the windows ecosystem no one has a huge motivation to jump, and as good as apples M chips are, they arent as good as the media hypes them up to be, you can get by perfectly fine on intel or and chips, we have seen time and time again that things like user familiarity, application library and much more simple things are the main drivers of user choice.

      IMO the only way qualcomm can really make headway is if they decide to spend several years losing money on these chips to try to get them a kick start. Give a real major financial motivation for people to put up with them until they get a solid place in the market and developers optimize around the platform.

      Just to put things in perspective even MS still cant even sort out and unify their own products, think office where some products like onenote have 2 different versions running on PCs plus separate mobile versions. Now extrapolate that out to all the vendors of various software.

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        10 months ago

        as good as apples M chips are, they arent as good as the media hypes them up to be,

        They really are. You’ve clearly never used them. I f*cking hate Apple under Tim Cook - penny pinching, nickel-and-dime dicks with a hugely customer-hostile approach to hardware maintenance and insane prices on upgrades, especially in the current generation. Their once-great software has just been crumbling into a dreadful jankfest in the last few years, so macOS now is mostly just a PITA trial of micro-aggressions and really just no longer fun to use. It’s basically just become Windows.

        But the hardware; repairable or not, oh my, that hardware. Best performing, coolest running, longest battery life laptop I’ve ever used by a huge margin - and that’s M1 Max, so arguably the worst of the M1-M3 lineup for battery life and now only comparatively average performance (M3 Max will get another 50-100% on it depending on workload). No performance drop, flat out all CPU and GPU cores, on battery.

        It’s absolute night and day compared to Intel. It’s not even close. It’s laughable. Intel mobile chipsets are awful.