I’m seeing CPU VID = 1.418v at max stock frequencies on my i7-14700K - is that too bad? Should I return it and wait for another opportunity to get another piece? I hoped I’d find more info in this thread but so far I only found one person with a 14700K there and their max VID=1.379
some setting called “DC Load Line” in bios , can change VID , which shown in hwinfo app.
like , if you set different DC loadline value > its change VID value > its affect power consumption value,.
thanks for the new photos! Well it’s strange, it seems to be doing the opposite on my board: the lower the DC loadline, the more realistic the reported power figure is, but the farther away the reported VID is from the actual vcore. At DC loadline=1 I got the closest power reading to the current I measured on the EPS cable (which is still about 20% higher)
yes it’s right,.until we touch offset vcore values,.
for ex:
i use DC loadline 80 for LLC7; 50 for LLC 6; 10 for LLC3; 1 for LLC1 (if iam not using offset vcore)
then if i add -0.130v offset,. > i add those offset value with DC loadline,. so using 130 DC loadline
check this :https://imgur.com/a/0urTtGS
and this: https://imgur.com/a/hAgN7y4 (compare this 2 link images; if i use LLC3 =DC 120-130 ; if i use LLC1 = DC 107 like that)
ac/dc loadline is also adjusted when you change svid behaviour. For example if I set svid behaviour to best case scenario, ac/dc is set to 0.01 or something like that, and worst case sets it higher.
Not sure about 14th gen, but that’s how it seems to work for me.
ohh i see,. im using MSI bios ,. i dont have those settings :) ,. so no confusion with it ,.
but in MSI board ,. DC load line value change lot of HW monitor reading , like this :https://imgur.com/a/teYLwrf ,. its not affect cpu in any ways afaik. but ,. there is lot of confusion to find which one is wrong/current readings,.
yeah I was indeed able to manipulate the reported VID value with the DC loadline. I’m therefore interested in the original intel configuration value and a way of reliably retrieving it without it being manipulated by the DC loadline setting. Knowing an arbitrarily manipulated value isn’t useful for the question I asked.
You need to set a static Vcore and AC/DC Load Line to the minimum possible values and then check to see the base VID which you’re looking for.
If you haven’t done that yet - and it sounds like you haven’t - you’re flipping out about the motherboard-configured VID which is 100-250mV higher than the fused VID depending on the default AC load line set by the BIOS.
check this: https://www.overclock.net/threads/msi-lite-load-and-mapping-to-cpu-ac-dc-load-lines.1805086/
and this: https://imgur.com/a/ZK1gQ1Q
if you are using MSI pro z790p ,. this will help (im using this board);
what you see VID value in HW monitor apps,. is useless ,.( its only used to correct , error readings in power draw)
use VCore (like u/Cradenz said); if you want currect power draw reading then change DC loadline values)