Apple fans, please stop being in denial regarding this. The Snapdragon wins, and is technically already on a device. A17 PRO was released only a month ago, so the comparison is totally valid. I have a 15 Pro Max and a Mac Studio, so if anything, I am very Apple biased. Truth hurts.
Cool. Apple now gets to fire back. That’s the game here but it between arm and arm neither being intel or amd and I so here for it. Good night intel and amd.
That’s an ignorant comment of the situation.
Apple is on a slightly better node than Qualcomm, there is no firing back anytime soon unless Apple pulls a rabbit out of their hat with insane architecture improvements, which is unlikely considering a lot of Apples best SoC engineers left the company years ago, hence the situation they are in now. They could spend more on larger dies, but that will eat into their margins.
Similarly one of the biggest reasons the M1 was so good compared to Intel and AMD back in 2020, was because Apple was and is buying the best nodes. With TSMC shitting the bed, those node handicaps will shrink for x86 just like they did for Qualcomm. If Intel surpasses TSMC with 18A in 2024, like many analysts expect, then it’s a role reversal where Intel finally has a node advantage after 10 years of trying to compete with a disadvantage. Plus Windows on Arm is an awful experience. Unlike Apple’s transition to Arm, where they got developers to support it and Rosetta 2 is pretty good, Microsoft has failed for over a decade to get Windows on Arm to be an equal to x86-x64 Windows.
I don’t really see any of this changing sales at all. If you want iOS you buy an iPhone. If you want Android, you’re probably getting Qualcomm. If you want Windows it’s 80% Intel and Nvidia and 20% AMD. The benchmark leaders may change, but that won’t convert people to Android or WoA, just like Apples silicon didn’t convert people to iOS or Mac.
Truth hurts? The only people who will be bothered by this are only the hardcore nerds on reddit and twitter. For most of us, it’s all about battery efficiency PPW.
There has been relatively little innovation from Apple on mobile chips the last 2-3 years, so any competition is great. Yes, I’m aware that making a chip us hard, I just mean that performance from Apple has stagnated, primarily because they have had such a gargantuan lead the last 3 years or so, that there was no need. Hopefully this pushes Apple to make huge improvements in either A18 or A19.
Let’s see it in day-to-day use over the course of 4 or 5 years. It may be great now, but it will be garbage as soon as the next processor comes out and a new version of android drops
Ok but how does it make it my phone calls and text message faster?
Guess you didn’t need a new phone in the past 7 years then.
Who gives a crap. What I need is a device that does the task I need it to at an adequate speed. All current flagship smartphones do that. Same goes for the idiotic discussion on whether to return a brand new M2 Max laptop for an M3. There’s no rationality here but only childish waste of resources.
All phones have been the same shit for like 5 years. They all load webpages instantly even the cheap $100 phones. It’s boring old tech that is ubiquitous now so nobody cares. People don’t even read these tech articles about phones anymore.
Those devices are still running Android. Hard pass.
ios is 💩
brave words in an apple forum
Qualcomm saw Pixel also go their own chip way and finally got off their butts.
It’s nice Apple is “possibly” getting some competition (We will need a lot more testing to confirm this) but honestly… so what?
Exactly how powerful does a phone processor need to be? I just upgraded from an iPhone Xs Max (from 5 years ago) to an iPhone 15 Pro Max and you know what? There was barely a performance difference! Even though the processor in my 15 Proi Max is 5 generations ahead… yeah… the weather app still gives me the weather just about the same and Safari still works just about the same. Sure… there is SOME noticeable difference. But not much.
Now, if Qualcomm can translate that into Laptop and Desktop performance like Apple has, that’s an entirely different matter. But until then… well… yay? I guess?
It’s not about watching Netflix on day one. It’s about being capable of all current AI and applications now, and still being good to do more than watch Netflix on year five.
Especially with local AI requiring more and more hardware.
The only thing this video shows is the solid GPU lead the SD 8g3 has. The CPU side of the house seems more or less the same. The 3% multicore lead is well within margin of error. For example, my iPhone 15 PM can easily hit over the “7506” score the 8g3 is showing.
Still though, impressed by Qualcomm, competition is a good thing.