They fired the ceo and everyone went with him to microsoft. Microsoft’s in control of all the compute resources to be delivered to openai, has access to all their tech and got the means to divert compute resources to this new “openai2.0” team that is now under full control of microsoft
Microsoft no longer needs the current “openai”, it’s gotta be 1 of the most stupid shit the board could’ve done
You mean firing the founder who brought all the employees and funding to your company might be bad for morale? No way! Who could’ve possibly seen that coming? Clearly no one on the board.
The board was more insulated than usual from the actual company because of the weird corporate structure of OpenAI and some members were uniquely unqualified.
Embrace, extend, extinguish. OpenAI needed Microsoft a lot more than they needed OpenAI. The playbook hasn’t changed. They’re the same they’ve always been. What’s new is that it was significantly accelerated time frame this time. This kind of thing usually takes years, but OpenAI made it possible for it to happen in weeks.
So far only a couple of key people have left. Hundreds of staff wrote in support of Sam and said they may leave. Considering the nature of startups a lot of knowledge is probably tribal and oral so whatever happens the openAI team and knowledge base will be fractured from this. It will probably take more than just a couple of months to get back on track, assuming there are no legal challenges either.
If this was a play by MS, I’m impressed. Reddit thinks tech bro Altman is some kind of hero and forgot all of his sketchy past projects and unfounded scifi hype. Its mind boggling. I think neither Altman nor the EA weirdos on the board have gotten enough scrutiny in the media, and certainly not on reddit.
Also the delay that development from MS will have for a bit will also mean that Google has some time to catchup to where ChatGPT was when this all happened. It was claimed they were a year behind OpenAI tech so that is also a major blow against them as well. I don’t expect MS to stop or to really be damaged by this news but it will enable Google to catch up a bit more. There’s also a benefit in that since it means more competition on this area for consumers/companies.
Altman is just a CEO, they can be replaced. He disrespected the ethical concerns of the OpenAI board in a major way, firing him was the least they could do. People who want to push AI tech without safety nets need to educate themselves urgently, they’re the same idiots who claim that climate change can be “solved” with tech. It can’t and there are very physical and mathematical reasons for it.
I’m late to the thread sorry if you’ve moved on but I’m confused about one of your points. It was my understanding Sam is/was the one beating the drum for safety restrictions, why is he now suddenly “no longer held back”?
You rarely end up on top by accident. Seeing how MS won and is being painted as the victim/ savior ontop of it… they might have somehow instigated the whole thing.
They fired the ceo and everyone went with him to microsoft. Microsoft’s in control of all the compute resources to be delivered to openai, has access to all their tech and got the means to divert compute resources to this new “openai2.0” team that is now under full control of microsoft
Microsoft no longer needs the current “openai”, it’s gotta be 1 of the most stupid shit the board could’ve done
Seems board severely underestimate the amount of friends Sam has
You mean firing the founder who brought all the employees and funding to your company might be bad for morale? No way! Who could’ve possibly seen that coming? Clearly no one on the board.
The board was more insulated than usual from the actual company because of the weird corporate structure of OpenAI and some members were uniquely unqualified.
Embrace, extend, extinguish. OpenAI needed Microsoft a lot more than they needed OpenAI. The playbook hasn’t changed. They’re the same they’ve always been. What’s new is that it was significantly accelerated time frame this time. This kind of thing usually takes years, but OpenAI made it possible for it to happen in weeks.
Yeah that’s not true. Microsoft still needs their technology. At least until it can be replaced, but that will take time.
So far only a couple of key people have left. Hundreds of staff wrote in support of Sam and said they may leave. Considering the nature of startups a lot of knowledge is probably tribal and oral so whatever happens the openAI team and knowledge base will be fractured from this. It will probably take more than just a couple of months to get back on track, assuming there are no legal challenges either.
If basically the whole company shifts over, that wouldn’t be an issue.
You could definitely make a terminator film out of this.
If this was a play by MS, I’m impressed. Reddit thinks tech bro Altman is some kind of hero and forgot all of his sketchy past projects and unfounded scifi hype. Its mind boggling. I think neither Altman nor the EA weirdos on the board have gotten enough scrutiny in the media, and certainly not on reddit.
By EA, are you talking about the video game company?
Also the delay that development from MS will have for a bit will also mean that Google has some time to catchup to where ChatGPT was when this all happened. It was claimed they were a year behind OpenAI tech so that is also a major blow against them as well. I don’t expect MS to stop or to really be damaged by this news but it will enable Google to catch up a bit more. There’s also a benefit in that since it means more competition on this area for consumers/companies.
It gives time for everyone to catch up.
I can’t think of the last time google was relevant in the innovation conversation.
Ilya worked at Google Brain before starting OpenAI
MS will gut them and eventually acquire them.
Microsoft isn’t going anywhere faster than their legal departement can follow. And that departement is going to have it’s hands full with this.
7 years of code development and 500+ new employees that you have to be sure isn’t using that code from their former employee.
Good luck to everything
Altman is just a CEO, they can be replaced. He disrespected the ethical concerns of the OpenAI board in a major way, firing him was the least they could do. People who want to push AI tech without safety nets need to educate themselves urgently, they’re the same idiots who claim that climate change can be “solved” with tech. It can’t and there are very physical and mathematical reasons for it.
Not all CEO’s are easy to replace. If Nvidia didn’t have Jensen they’d be screwed.
I’m late to the thread sorry if you’ve moved on but I’m confused about one of your points. It was my understanding Sam is/was the one beating the drum for safety restrictions, why is he now suddenly “no longer held back”?
You rarely end up on top by accident. Seeing how MS won and is being painted as the victim/ savior ontop of it… they might have somehow instigated the whole thing.
thinking the same thing
So, it’s Nokia/Stephen Elop thing again?
actually big brain move if thats the case.