• qwehhhjz@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I just bought a 5800X3D so I don’t need it, but I’m happy they still support AM4.

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      10 months ago

      Bro same here, bought my x3d this morning and thought were dropping something new now and panicked a bit.

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      10 months ago

      Supposedly there will be an RX 5500X3D coming in the near future. Wish granted

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      10 months ago

      I mean whats the point? The 5700X3D will be basically a slower 5800x3D. Seems odd to me. I would have liked to see more CPUs with v-cache like a 5500X3D and v-cache on APUs.

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        10 months ago

        5700X3D will be basically a slower 5800x3D. Seems odd to me.

        Allows them to sell lower binned chips that didn’t pass all the quals to meet the requirements to be sold as a 5800x3D, but can still be used at lower clock speeds without issue.

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        10 months ago

        There’s also an NPU version coming supposedly. In any case it would be better to see what they release before buying something. I was just gonna upgrade to the cheapest 5600 available.

        I don’t think I need the extra power right now. Most of my games run just fine. Except Starfield, but it’s a shitty game anyway.

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        10 months ago

        My first thought would be power usage – 5700X is 65W, while the 5800X & 5800X3D was 105W. However, that turns out to not be true, as a quick check of the 5600X3D has it rated at 105W, while the 5600X was 65W. So that’s not it.

        I suspect the real point is probably just yields, the same reason the 5600X3D existed (and maybe the 5700X itself, iirc). These may just be the same chips, with 8 working cores (vs 6 for the 5600X3d), but clocked lower.

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        10 months ago

        leftover chips that dont meet EPYC power draw requirements but don’t clock high enough for a 5800X3D so instead of throwing it away they sell a slightly worse chip, basically how all gpu/cpu binning works.
        They are reusing something that already exists not making something entirely new.

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    10 months ago

    When are the next Ryzen CPU chips supposed to release? It’s been close to a year already hasn’t it?

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    10 months ago

    They need to make the PRO variants more accessible this time around. The 5X50G/E were and still are next to impossible to find.

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      10 months ago

      The target market for those chips buys almost exclusively from large OEM system builders, so that’s where all the supply went.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah it makes sense. Rarely do people custom build their own office machines. But they are great chips for low power with ECC. That’s a rare thing to find when doing a custom build.

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          10 months ago

          I’ve been trying to get one for a high efficiency build, but the sparse availability and relatively high cost (compared to non GE equivalent) is keeping me from buying one

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            10 months ago

            I find the 4750G and 4650G come up on eBay often for decent prices. Not too different from the 5000 series PRO chips. I think slightly different cache amounts and of course just a bit slower performance (Zen2 vs Zen3). Still very efficient.

            The only thing I’m not sure about is their max RAM amount. I know the 5X50G series supports 128GB (depending on mb), but can’t find any info on the 4X50G series. I assume also 128GB like the non-PRO variants.

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          10 months ago

          I got my 5650G on EBay for ~ $170 USD and the 5750G was previously > $300 but I noticed a few sellers at the $200 mark lately.

          I put this into my server, its running 64gb of ECC memory and handles my transcoding and Jellyfin very well. Multiple 4K Transcodes and HDR support out of the box, while consuming as little as 10w to do so. Its the perfect media server platform as it checked off all the boxes.

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              10 months ago

              dmidecode -t 17

              Memory Device
              Array Handle: 0x0030
              Error Information Handle: 0x003F
              Total Width: 72 bits
              Data Width: 64 bits
              Size: 16 GB

              According to dmidecode it is properly utilizing ECC, my non ECC systems only show 64 total and data width.

              I totally went on a guess if this would work as there is not very much ‘complete’ information on this build. As mentioned in the link you posted its very hit or miss. Since I have ZFS running on here, one of its soft requirements are ECC so I wanted to ensure I had it fully implemented or not.

              I am using my old desktop platform on an Asus Prime Pro x470 with this memory. Its clocked at 2666MHz with some fairly loose timings (no XMP/DOCP, I kept timing stock). I was able to easily get it to 3200MHz with a slight voltage increase for some slight gains.

              The G CPU’s are not all dreams, I had to update my stable Debian’s kernel to a backport and to use tools like radeontop or nvtop I had to compile them in manually as the distro ones are too old to read the Renoir based GPU. Outside of that, everything works great for Jellyfin running behind linuxservers docker container. I used the linuxserver/mods:jellyfin-amd docker mod on their jellyfin container and it worked right away. H264/H265 and HDR support all out of the box.

              Its a great chip, I am very happy with my purchase. 4.2GHz all core with boost around 4.6GHz.

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                10 months ago

                Thanks for the reply! It does seem like, from my research, that the Asus boards (specifically Prime, but probably all of them) support ECC completely. But as you said, this information is not centralized anywhere. Just random forum posts like this.

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    10 months ago

    Lmao 5700GT? Hope its igpu based on rdna2/3 and not vega based (well i don’t hold my breath tho). Kinda disappointed a bit that 8300g is going oem only.

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    10 months ago

    So excited, hopefully this time around AsRock or someone else will provide ultra tiny X300 DeskMini successor that doesn’t have a dogshit I/O… USB4 or riot!

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    10 months ago

    I mean, I have a 5600G with a 7800 XT running. If that 8000G were to come out, I may jump to AM5 and give the AM4 system (minus GPU of course) in different hands.

    Though I’m not sure, if that 8000G or an 8800X3D would be the better choice. Don’t both have APUs inside them anyway?

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      10 months ago

      > Don’t both have APUs inside them anyway?

      Yeah but in different league. The igpu is good enough for non-intensive tax and maybe can play some older game.

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    10 months ago

    I’d consider a 5700x3d if that’s true to replace my 5800x for the lower power draw and better thermals while getting a solid bump in games also. Seems like a win to me.

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    10 months ago

    AM4 as always seems to be holding up extremely well, it was simple and cheap.

    Makes sense they still make chips for it because there still is people with 2nd or 3rd gen Ryzen. Giving them more options for upgrading, specially new options is a big plus.