True story, I just switched to a 7900xtx from a 4090. I hate nvidia drivers, but the final straw was the power connector melting after a year and the card maker seemingly trying to get out of replacing it (they’ve had me take forensic level photos of everything snd keep asking for more).
In my country, the 7900 xtx costs $1000. Meanwhile the cheapest RTX 4090 costs $2000. And you’re telling me for double the price you get only 10% extra performance? LOL NVidia are the biggest scammers and I’m jumping to AMD only for my next build. The “but AMD DRIVERZZZ” meme needs to stop.
The “but AMD DRIVERZZZ” meme needs to stop.
As a 6800XT user for the past 2.5 years, I just can’t recommend this to a friend, without a massive asterisk. Drivers needed a long time to mature (in before people mention; yes - RAM tested fine, BIOS got updated, etc. basic stuff), so that they finally allowed me to just start my PC, play some games and repeat that the next day, without having to reinstall the drivers, rollback to older versions, etc. I took all that for granted with my nVidia cards, it wasn’t so simple with a Radeon.
I still remember getting constant driver timeouts in 2021 while trying to play Mafia 1 DE - the first “good” driver for me was the FSR 1.0 release driver, seemed to fix a ton of issues in general. It also happened with many other games, but after that driver update - most games started to work well. A major quality of life improvement! It shouldn’t have taken so long to happen, though.
This is also why AMD’s cards need to be noticeably cheaper - the AMD Jank.
Yeah it’s about this now in EU, 1850~ or more for cheapest 4090s and XTX can be had around 1k or less (1100 for the Sapphire Nitro at most). Value is absolutely not worth it so I expect more 7900xtx sales as a result of this. I’d rather spend that extra on a big OLED or more ram/ssd/etc.
the performance and power usage isn’t that far behind at all. Maybe 10% or so in the games I play.
this is just a lie lol
the 7900xtx competes with the 4080 in raster and a 3080 ti in rt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qh0JE-lMHU
minimum 20% difference, maximum over 100%
You will replace your 7900xtx at some point though where as 4090 users will just turn on dlss. That’s just a straight downgrade.
I’m not a fan of DLSS in most games. I notice the artifacts almost right away. Look at Jedi Survivor with DLSS. Jump in front of anything and it will shimmer.
DLSS is just crutch because they can’t seem to innovate performance with architecture optimization. They have to resort to giant dies or rendering at a lower res and upscaling.
Deep Learning Super Smearing?
No thanks, it looks like ass in youtube videos with compression but all the reviewers ‘never notice it’ for some strange reason… they don’t get to keep the card if they do ;)
That’s not how you write out FSR.
Love to see more competition between AMD and Nvidia in other aspects than gaming. Competition in general is good for the consumer.
A government banning your product in another country, so people are forced to buy another’s product is the exact opposite of competition.
They could have bought the 4080. They are choosing the 7900xtx/xt over it.
That’s not an option for some of these companies. When you’re dealing with so much data and such large models you will start getting limited by power meaning you can only fit so many cards into a building.
Glad I got my 7900xt last week haha
How does that work, made in China but banned in China?
The GPU core itself is made by TSMC in Taiwan. It’s then added to PCBs in China, Taiwan, and wherever else AIBs operate.
Here the neat part, it is not made in China.
For some time now.
They can’t be made there either
Title says “4090 import ban”, they’re imported from China, not to China.
They’re currently made in Taiwan, no?
Taiwan is only officially part of China, in practice they go their own way.
e.g. those GPU assembler brands that buy chips from NV to assemble the actual cards to sell to retailers to sell to gamers, they cannot assemble the 4090 anymore because NV can’t sell to them.
AMD too weak in AI to be banned
They banned
Are the cards mostly made outside of mainland China? Or are they banning the import of a product they’re exporting?
They’re banning the GPU package itself so AIC factory in China cannot produce the card anymore.
I’d guess the silicon is made in RoC/Taiwan? maybe Korea too?
I’d buy one if the 7900xtx would ever actually drop in price. NOT paying 950 for a video card that can be matched by a 4070 ti zotac for $700.
lel where does the 4070ti perform better than the 7900xtx other than raytracing?
Lel all the nvidia PR/stockholder types can do is REEEE muh RT AMD sux lolol.
I have a 7900xt, but I’ll be going back to nvidia. Driver crashes and dual screen issues (i have tried everything) just aren’t worth it.
I just bought a 7900xt a couple of weeks ago and haven’t had a single crash, so I’m assuming it’s an issue with certain games that I don’t play. I don’t use dual screen though, so maybe that’s where the drivers have issues. If so, they really need to fix that.
Your assumption is false. It’s the drivers across the board, programs etc. AMD/Radeon are famous for driver issues going back to the 00’s. They won’t fix it because they can’t.
Tried cables? Tried RMA?
Had the same issues, lost count of how many driver crashes I had.
Yeah, the price this thing cost is ridiculous for how many issues it has
What dual screen issues are you getting? I’ve honestly had more issues with my dual screens with nvidia drivers in the past.
I’m currently using 2 monitors, 2K, 144&240 Hz, HDMI&DP and there are no issues with my 7800XT so far.
So many i’ve lost count. It’s always driver crashes or timeouts. Never had driver issues with NVIDIA cards in 20 years, both times I had AMD, glitches in games, driver crashes. I’ve done everything. I’m going to replace the card when I can.
Is it really banned though? I just checked on JD.com and all manufacturers are still selling them normally.
Must feel bad if your sales only go up if the competitor is banned from the market. This is coming from a happy 6800XT user who still cant believe how bad the whole RDNA3 gen has been.
Maybe the popularity will lead to functioning drivers
Good. That means Nvidia is getting more competition.