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isint like 25% of Apples profits come from repairs?
Advocates believe that tech giants realized they were on the losing side of the repair fight and that by making some concessions, they could keep a seat at the negotiating table in order to shape future regulations.
This is the crux of this entire issue. Apple is accepting the rules because it realizes fighting it is a losing battle. By accepting the rules now, it can pretend to be the good guy, keep a seat at the table while behind the scenes working on malicious compliance.
Basically, it is accepting it now so they can help shape the laws so it is written in ways they have no problems with.
Sure, you will have the right to repair your iPhone. But only 3rd party shops that pay $$$ to become a Certified Apple Repair Center will qualify and they will only be allowed to use Apply supplied parts and will be required to charge apple set repair rates.
What have we gained?
The CA law explicitly does not require third party repair to be certified and does not permit setting of rates
Apple are happily with thus law as it applies to everyone and due to thier vertical integration and small number of products screws it will cost them a lot less than competitors. In effect for apple the CA right to repair law benefits them more than it hurts them.
It’s the same as when you tell a kid “of course you can have some candy, just go grab it!” then put it on the very top shelf. It’s not our fault if we intentionally and specifically made it too hard for you to do!
Ok, you can go to a different shop and install a counterfeit part. That’s better? Yeah, that was a case of repairing an old iPhone where I live. You had two options: a genuine Apple display and a really genuine Apple display. The first option would be a low quality counterfeit, and the second was a quality counterfeit. If you had to be sure it was a genuine Apple display, you had to go to the shop that pays $$$ to Apple. Period.
I don’t have a slightest idea how allowing school dropoffs to scam people is better. Some safety measures have to be there.
Ok, you can go to a different shop and install a counterfeit part. That’s better?
That is a disingenuous argument. There is a middle ground between paying Apple markup for Apple branded parts and counterfeit parts.
I can buy perfectly good, sometimes much better than OEM quality parts for my car. They are not counterfeit. They are just parts made by a supplier.
Apple doesn’t manufacture anything. There is no Apple factory. Everything is sourced from suppliers and assembled together. Those same suppliers could be selling the exact same quality parts for less without the Apple logo on them.
Cars. Are. Gadgets. Too.
Right to repair needs to start affecting vehicles now as well, shit’s getting ridiculous. Give me an electric car that isn’t a PITA to fix. Give me modules.
The sad part is that cars had a “right to repair” fight decades ago and are in a much better position as far as repairability and being forced to make it easier than the manufacturers ever wanted.
The manufacturers have been slowly using loopholes and apathy to erode repairability in recent decades, but cars are still better off than many other things like electronics, appliances, industrial equipment etc.
its been a movement for a long time.
even before drama rossmon
That’s just the beginning.
What we need is the right to own our devices. No strings attached
And the means to keep they operating without depending on the maker.
Ok hear me out. This is all because the Chinese do not care about US Copyright laws.
Corporations are terrified of releasing specs and instructions to build products with a “pay us if you use our trademarked designs” clause. Chinese copycat companies will not obey. You, the consumer, will have a hard time telling the real deal from the fake (cheaply made) knockoff.
The company that designed the product will not get paid and is at risk of their name being tarnished by bad / fake products. This is a lose-lose for a lot of companies, especially tech companies.
I just read a whole other news article and comments about people complaining about the lack of quality of Intel chips. This is a product the company has control over. Fake products flooding the market isn’t good for our safety (especially when it comes to cars) or the US economy.
I agree we shouldn’t be beholden to subscription fees and other faulty “old tech” issues but until a US startup pops who is willing to play nice with corporations’ legal trademarks we aren’t going to see the right to repair movement go anywhere.
This is easy. Usually you fix problems like that through trade restrictions or tariffs. Country won’t do business on your terms? Make it cheaper to stay in line than not.
Exactly.
so you saying the maker must open source all the software and IP and internal deisnges of every chip not to mention provide the tooling and rigs they used to make them for free to any factory that wants to make rip offs?
Microsoft and Apple are destroying innovation, and have so for decades. It’s what monopolies and oligopolies do. We need a phone with an open-source publicly funded platform that doesn’t gatekeep development.
that is very different form forcing the existing platforms to open source… publicly funding the development of a open platform is rather different to writing ga law that just removes all the existing IP from a privately funded company.
No, I’m pretty sure what they said is the thing in their post, not the different thing in yours
We need to all support this
I dont see the point in a debate.
90% of people who try to fix their electronics will damage it then blame the company for their own stupidity…
Seems like a win for the companies regardless
I support the idea, but I don’t want a repairable device if it compromises the quality of the product.