If AMD was ever going to throw the towel init was vega and they didn’t.

I think what a lot of people in this thread forget is that Nvidia discounted the GTX 970 to a ridiculously low price that a lot gamers switched to Nvidia. Then the 10 series out the gate was still relatively low priced especially the 1080ti. I do hope AMD can turn the discreet graphics sector around to gain more market share like they have done with Ryzen.