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  • The 13900F has an 8/16 performance + 16 efficiency cores. It’ll boost around 5.6GHz but has memory overclocking locked.

    14700KF has 8/16 performance + 12 efficiency cores. It’ll boost around 5.6GHz but memory overclock is unlocked or rather voltages are giving you more flexibility and slight better performance from ram alone.

    They’re both F series so no iGPU

    Unless you need +4 ecores for mulithread apps and production, I would go with the 14700KF and you can overclock it later if you want.



  • Doubt it’s the CPU. Max boost on those things is 5.2GHz stock boost. On 13700K it’s 5.3-5.4GHz and so forth. So you’re saying 200-600MHz is going to get rid of your bottleneck? It could very well be the game you’re playing is not optimized. Because compare them all:

    13700F up to 5.2GHz stock boost 8/16 +8

    13700K up to 5.4GHz stock boost 8/16 +8

    14700K up to 5.6GHz stock boost 8/16 +12

    13900K up to 5.8GHz stock boost 8/16 +16

    14900K up to 6.0GHz stock boost 8/16 +16

    So going from 5.2 to say 5.6-6.0GHz will not eliminate a bottleneck so there is something else, if you want to max out your GPU then go 4K. At 1440p you shouldn’t be getting a bottleneck and could just be the game you’re playing.


  • PrimalPuzzleRing@alien.topBtoIntelI5-12600k upgrade to?
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    13600K or 13700K, if you can find sales those are great. I got my 13700K for $280 a few weeks ago and skipped my planned 14700K.

    14600K or 14700K if you can find sales, I’ve seen 14700K around $370ish but with tax it kind gets close to $400.

    Check your FB marketplace/Craigslist or online forums, I have seen 13900K for $350 so they’re out there, most of those people are looking to “side” grade to 14900K lol

    14th gen isn’t “bad” per say, it was how it was marketed and rather than just calling it say 13750K or something it was a generational number change that just added +4 e cores to the 14700K and a MHz bump for the rest. Still replaced the SKU for 13th gen and they gated APO to 14th gen only. So you can see people being upset.

    You will see a little bit of performance boost compared to your current chip, primarily higher stock boost, slight IPC increase, added ecores, and more cache.



  • Use based, like i had an i7 4770K then when I was overseas I was mostly on laptop (desktop replacement) with a 6820HK, upgraded my laptop to 9750H, then I built my rig with a 9700K, sold to a friend, built another rig with 10700K, sold to a friend, came back stateside built the latest and greatest at the time lol so 10900K, skipped 11th, didnt want early adopter 12th, got 13th. If the price is right, IPC is great, everything is good maybe a 15th gen but if you want everything ironed out after a new platform then it’ll be 16th if we go by the tick tock process.

    8K/9K - went with 9K

    10K/11K - went with 10K

    12K/13K/14K - went with 13K, I could’ve gotten the 14700K for cheap but I got the 13K brand new for $280 so… $280 vs $400 lol

    15K/16K - if stable platform 15th if theres any sales, 16th if i want most of the stuff ironed out

    The difference with 11th -> 12th gen was DDR5, you can keep your good DDR4 kit if you didn’t want to jump ship, initial DDR5 was trash, no availability, no kits, barely to no kits with XMP… this was the early adopter phase and you had kits going for $300-400 now they’re what like $80-$100 for a good 32GB kit with a good xmp.

    Now that DDR5 is has pretty much settled the transition to 15th/16th will probably be easier.

    But to answer your question, sometimes I just line it up with GPU release:

    4770K I had a 970

    6820HK I had a 970M (laptop)

    6820HK I had a 1070 (laptop)

    9750H I had a 2060 (laptop)

    9700K I had a 2080

    10700K I had a 2080 Super

    10900K I had a 3080

    5800H I have a 3070 (AMD laptop)

    13700K I have a 4080 (had a 4070Ti, had a 4090)


  • I’ve owned quite a lot of Asus motherboards and GPUs and typically have had no issues with them, RMA is a whole other issue but I typically have no issues. The first Gigabyte board I tried was the Z490 and had issues right out of the box (had to flash firmware just to get the NIC to work) so that went through their QA or lack of? their BIOS arent even that great either lol. I also tried a 3080 Gigabyte when they first came out, sooner or later I had to replace the fans. But these are just my personal experience, some people out there will use only Gigabyte stuff and are just fine and maybe had nightmare experience with Asus. Nowadays I would probably go more for an MSI board first before Asus and probably even ASRock before Gigabyte.

    If you’re just comparing these two models, just going through the spec sheet, Asus uses Intel NIC, Gigabyte uses Realtek, both uses Intel WiFi (but some say Gigabyte went for both Realtek after), Asus tend to have better audio support. Thats about it really from me, everything else seems to check out. The rest I would go to say Amazon or Newegg and read other user reviews to see if they have any issues.


  • 13900F - 8/16 + 16e = 24core / 32threads with max boost of 5.6GHz

    14700KF - 8/16 + 12e = 20core / 28theads with max boost of 5.6GHz

    Stock for stock they will perform similar in games that utilize p cores, only difference is e cores and if you will need the extra core/threads for multitasking/rendering/3d programs/encoding etc… Outside of GPU.

    When it comes to ram performance with memory you may have issues running XMP with non-K chips as if it runs at a high frequency or faster timings it may require more voltage and the non-K are pretty much locked down. The bandwidth with ram can easily make up performance and better overall imo.

    I personally prefer K chips and the 14700K(F) is a good balance. I’ve had non-K chips and they refused to play well with DDR5 above specs and the voltages for memory tweaking were locked down. Overall though if you plan to run stock and don’t care about ram then non-K are decent.