• speakers suck
• no touch screen option

Literally just those two things

If they fix those (and keep releasing new updates every year with regular cadence) then I really have a dream laptop option whenever I need an upgrade

Edit: oh also… the framework logo button on the keyboard… it’s an entire keyboard button! In a prominent corner spot. What is it for? Opening the framework website? That’s just dumb. It’s a super prominent keyboard key. Find a proper use for it, or just release a utility to let us customise it as an action button which can do whatever we want. It’s super bizarre. A minor issue - but very bizarre

I use Linux every day inside a VM on windows 11 on a framework. I’d be comfortably happy with linux as main and only operating system but I find this setup works well for a sort of “best of both worlds” type scenario. If you run via hyper-v there is basically no performance loss.

I think windows 11 can be very nice too if you run a debloater (I used windows 10 debloater powershell scripts) and an app like ‘0&0 shut up’ — and yes it would be better if we didn’t have to do that - but we do, and after you do, windows 11 is pretty nice and I have my VM & WSL2 for even nicer work environments

At some point arm will be so efficient, it will easily receive all new releases and be able to easily emulate x86 for all old releases without any penalty. It’s an inevitable future!

One other thing I like about framework - when you upgrade to a new board, your old board becomes a standalone mini pc. You can use that for r/homelab or r/selfhosted projects which can be really fun and repurposes your old hardware in a more useful way

Honestly I like framework because it doesn’t have any manufacturer bloat. I hate and despise all that, and while some will say just reinstall windows (or install Linux) I like windows for fun (Linux for work!) and most laptops need weird windows drivers with a load of crap included you cannot avoid

Framework has no such issues. It’s like getting an Android pixel phone from Google, rather than a Samsung. I just like stock.

Speaking of which, is why the Microsoft surface line would be my second choice and biggest competitor to framework for me.

Out the two I weighed pros and cons. Both are stock windows, nicely made. Surface line is tight and integrated and framework is open and upgradable, which was the path I preferred slightly in the end.

A great thing about desktop PCs is you can config exactly how you like and avoid manufacturers crapware - and frameworks are that philosophy for laptops, which I think is great.

If you prefer touchscreens or smaller shells I’d say Microsoft surface is the line to get, otherwise, get a framework. For me - no other laptops are considered for me personally.

Maybe I’m weird!