• jigsaw1024@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    7500+ pins!!!

    How long until they start ‘sandwiching’ the CPU in the socket to have contacts on both sides of the chip?

    • Wait_for_BM@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You forget about those massive amount of pins on the top side has to be connected to something too. You’ll ended up with a sandwich with large amount of connections on PCB on both sides which makes cooling worse.

      Better sticking to PCB on one side and heatsink on top.

    • Exist50@alien.topOPB
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      1 year ago

      I don’t see that happening anytime soon, if ever. Cooling would be an extreme problem.

      Medium term, we’ll probably see at least 16 channels and 128+ PCIe lanes and TDPs up to 600-800W in the Venice/Diamond Rapids gen. Should push pin counts to ~9000. Beyond that, it becomes tricky. At a certain point, there’s so much IO you literally cannot fit that many standard DIMMs lined up in a typical ~20in server blade. Will need some way around that.

      Long term, optical might be a solution. Have some super high bandwidth optical links on the main package and break out PCIe or whatever else on some external chipset.

      • AK-Brian@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Fan-out PHYs will likely make a return, in some form or another. Optical would be a good route.

    • jnf005@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      How the hell do you cool it lol. Maybe something vertical around the circuit?

  • SheaIn1254@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Can’t wait for Turin-dense vs Clearwater Forest. These sockets are even bigger than this.

  • hackenclaw@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    At this rate…one day in the future dropping a paper clip can potentially bend the pins…

    /s

  • Exist50@alien.topOPB
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    1 year ago

    Note, the title says Sierra Forest, but this is presumably the Birch Stream AP socket, so it will be used for GNR-AP as well.