• From-UoM@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    8 stands for 2024 btw.

    The 4 means zen 4

    Thank you AMD for a totally not confusing naming scheme for laptops.

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      1 year ago

      I mean, thanks to that you know that’s its refresh. So it’s fucking helpful.

      • From-UoM@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Can you believe some people actually defend it?

        You already have situations where 7520u (zen2) is slower than 5600u (zen3)

        Soon you will get a R7 9730 slower than R7 7740

        Or a 9520u being lower than 7540u

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          1 year ago

          I mean, it tells you right in the name it’s zen 2. The actual issue is it’s 4 cores despite being ryzen 5. The 7320u also has 4 cores.

    • ramenbreak@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      and then zen5 laptops will conveniently not launch until 2025, so that they don’t end up with a bunch of 25% better performing laptops advertised in the spec sheets only by having the 3rd digit one number higher than other models

        • From-UoM@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          A 9840h would be slower than a 9750H

          I had to look up that chart yo name them. That’s how bad it is.

          • kaukamieli@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            How is that relevant? A refresh of a 8750 would be 9750 as it’s the year that changes.

            It’s not my fault you don’t know how the new naming system works yet. Someone who didn’t know how the old naming system works would also have to consult something.

            • From-UoM@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              You think the general public will know?

              It has always been first higher number representing latest generation.

              Not the 3rd

                • From-UoM@alien.topB
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                  1 year ago

                  Yes.

                  R7 5800 8 core > R7 5700 8core

                  R5 5600 6 core > R5 5500 6 core

                  R3 5400 4 core > R3 5300 4 core

                  You quite literally gave the best answer of why older names were better.

                  • kaukamieli@alien.topB
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                    1 year ago

                    No, you said first number was always last generation. That was pure ignorance and now you are moving goalposts and trying to win by arguing something else.

                    New names have both the release year and generation in them. You see it in a glance. You see 9840 is zen 4, so you do not accidentally buy it f you only want zen 5.

                    The two last numbers tell you the product segment, and the second number is how high it is in that segment. Just learn the system.

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      1 year ago

      What’s so confusing about it? Isn’t the naming convention public info? So those that care about model numbers can look up what’s what - or am I missing something?

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        1 year ago

        The issue is that it breaks the commonly accepted trend of bigger number better. You could have an 8520U get clapped by a 7540U for example, because even though the latter is newer, the former is Zen 4 to its Zen 2.

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          1 year ago

          You could have an 8520U get clapped by a 7540U for example, because even though the former is newer, the latter is Zen 4 to its Zen 2.

          Absolutely completely irrelevant!

          Show me a laptop line with these both in them. They are for completely different type of products.

          You buy laptops, not laptop cpus. If you are looking for something to game on, you will not even see laptops with mendocino on them.

          They had to change the system as they now have multiple different types of cpus instead of one they had different numbers of cores for.

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          1 year ago

          The 7540U is a 28W Zen 4 part. If the 8520U exists it will be a 15W Zen 2 part.

          At the 15W and below TDP range performance won’t actually be as far apart as you would think, you can see this with steam deck vs rog ally performance at 15W or lower TDPs.

          The way to think about it is that there is the 20, 30, 40, and 50 series with bigger being better and within each series you have the model year (7/8/9 etc) and the tier of each part in the series.

          For example, which TV is better. S95B or the S90C or the QN95C or the S95C?

          • kaukamieli@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Bigger problem than any that has been mentioned is that there is now 45 series that is desktop cpus on laptops. So I really hope they will stick to HX being just for that category or it will be a mess. :p