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I love that video
On Windows. on Linux these cards will be supported for another decade at least.
So happy I don’t use Windows and I fully embraced Linux!
My RX 560 and 570 GPUs are very happy with it!
For another 10 years at least!
Modded drivers are available on Widows, and they already back ported a bunch of features that AMD didn’t.
ATI Rage 128 just lost support in the kernel.
Last LTS kernel to have support for it (6.1) will be maintained until December 2026 or August 2033.
Wonder if you could even have a GPU in continuous operation for 34 years without replacing capacitors or something else.
2024 year of desktop Linux?!
Stupid question: does AMD contribute to RADV and mesa? As in, are they the main contributors to the amd drivers in Linux? I assume that they are at least significant contributors? For situations like this where support is dropped by AMD, does that mean that they will still patch card specific issues, or do other contributors take care of that?
(I know the drivers aren’t necessarily card specific overall, but what happens if a specific unsupported card has an issue with a new driver?)
On Linux, not only supported but improving performance
I love my Radeon VII…
Killing Polaris is one thing, killing Vega when they are actively selling Vega is hilarious.
This also means APUs using vega are included right? Been thinking of buying a laptop with 7730u but this might be the reason why i might change my mind
Should have bought the 5500H that was launched in June that is already obsolete in drivers with this latest news.
Let’s be honest here. Usually these patches are driver optimizations for new games. What kind of a new game runs on a Vega architecture IGP with 6 to 8 CUs, and 1/2 the performance of an RX 6400. Anything that’s last generation has probably already been updated to run well.
Even if you’re looking at like e-sport titles, I’d be shocked to see driver’s having improved things by more than 1% in the last year in like Fortnite or League of Legends.
My HD6950 before can run The Division before but due to AMD, pushing it out of driver updates, game gets all glitchy with artifacts.
You can use third-party drivers, they’re better anyway.
As much as I would like to try that on my RX 580, the installation is just such a trainwreck hassle for not experienced users like me.
I’m not even on a Radeon GPU anymore but last time I installed these drivers the setup had been greatly streamlined, it wasn’t more complicated than installing official drivers.
They will still make regular updates for bugs/security. There are millions of these units in production and AMD is not dropping support for them.
These older architectures are just not a focus for new features and the drivers are being split out into a sperate package.
They said :
The AMD Polaris and Vega graphics architectures are mature, stable and performant and don’t benefit as much from regular software tuning. Going forward, AMD is providing critical updates for Polaris- and Vega-based products via a separate driver package, including important security and functionality updates as available. The committed support is greater than for products AMD categorizes as legacy, and gamers can still enjoy their favorite games on Polaris and Vega-based products.
If a laptop with a 7730u meets your needs today it likely will continue doing so for some time. That said, obviously older architectures are closer to EOL than newer ones so that comes with pros and cons. Cheaper but official support will drop off sooner.
Not sure how an APU with a 680M or 780M stacks up in price.
The Amernime Zone repacked driver provides many newer features for older AMD cards, may be worth looking into… Currently using it on my 6700xt for less bugs even though my card will be supported for a while
Why does AMD always cut support so early? My 1060ti on my laptop still gets monthly drivers.
The RX 570 - 590 are not bad cards, they can still run most games on medium/high at 60fps, just no ray tracing. I played Doom Eternal on an RX 590 about 6 months ago and it was getting over 100fps.
I find it wasteful to cut support for cards like these so soon, a lot of people can still use them.
Do you think they’ll suddenly not be able to play games? I didn’t update the drivers on my RX 570 for 4 months once and nothing happened.
If this means more effort goes into closing the feature gap vs nvidia, then I think this is an excellent move.
If this means just more profit, and they will still half ass upscaling, then we have a problem.
For me this means jumping ship over to nvidia.
Bye RX 580.
RX 580 and GTX 1060 has been around for a very long time, to the point I think right now is a very good time for an upgrade.
Meanwhile the GTX 1060 has gotten driver updates and is still supported for the latest games, regardless of only having 6 GB VRAM.
Yes, but it’s still a really old card, i replaced my 1060 6gb by a 6700 10go because it was not sufficient enough for gaming, not enough power, not enough memory and even if FSR was a godsend, i was playing at 1080p medium at max.
Also, it was supported but games and drivers were not optimized for it and the new features were not compatible with it (but AMD features are working on my old nvidia cards!), so…
While I’m pretty sure AMD has issues with software development resource shortage, I’m still not sure this is a good idea at this point. They should have only dropped Polaris to 2nd tier support at this point, and maybe Vega next year or so.
What a disgraceful company
Its better to put the driver devs on new products instead. Its been 6+ years since polaris. You really got your moneys worth at $250 RX480 and RX470.
It’s been 6+ years since Pascal too but those will be supported for years to come.
Which leaves the inferior 1060 in a better position compared to the RX480 going forward… not a good look for AMD
Aren’t nvidia’s gpus from 2014 still supported?
They are also a much bigger company with a bigger headcount. AMD doesnt have the budget to do what nvidia is doing. Nvidia is projecting to make more money next quarter than AMD will all of last year. If you only have a few people its in your best interest to look ahead not behind otherwise you will keep falling behind.
This means the top 2 named AMD cards in the steam survey are no longer supported in new drivers, nice.
AMD looking at this and thinking “there’s the 2 biggest areas to push card updates”.
Talk about “shooting yourself in the leg” move, lol.
They’ll force those people to upgrade next year 👌
Guess we’re never getting those improved fan curve controls lol
In all seriousness? I’m fine with it, IF they do actually fix things that either a) come up on their own and b) fix things they break themselves (which they definitely do, semi-frequently). I don’t expect feature updates anymore.
However!!! If they throw up their hands and give up on Vega/Polaris support entirely I will be mad. This is still capable hardware, good enough for many uses, and the budget/value segment seems like it has been vaporized never to return
What a joke. Meanwhile nvidia still supports gtx900 cards.
meanwhile they only receive mostly driver version changes… but nvidia has LONG since stopped caring about those gpus. It’s been shown over and over and over again how nvidia’s drivers have a tendency to regress on 1 and 2 generation old and older gpus.
It’s also a fact that amd/ati has provided most often the longest running support for hardware driver wise. Plus vega/polaris aren’t dead yet, they are receiving driver updates still just not as often. They haven’t been moved to legacy yet.
It’s been shown over and over and over again how nvidia’s drivers have a tendency to regress on 1 and 2 generation old and older gpus.
where?
which reputable source has show it?
all of them…
Specific examples?
just go look?
We need to first know what sources you consider to be reputable.
you tell me… goo look, stop wasting time asking
That’s completely stupid at this point. But there’s a reason here. We’re paying the price of GCN being basically the same architecture from the very first HD 7000s, which came out in 2012. The only changes we see are from the first generation GCN to the second, and also from Polaris to Vega. Polaris is basically the same refined arch as the 200 series, except less power hungry. I didn’t understand why they previously dropped support for up to GCN 3, when in fact GCN 3 and GCN 4 are on par feature wise, and the r9 390x just beats the 480, let alone the Radeon fury series with HBM memory!
Depends massively on the game and VRAM used. 390X / 580 / Fury non X trade blows depending on game.
Yeah if VRAM usage goes beyond 4gigs then 390X and 8gb variants of 480 and 580/590 pulls ahead.
AMD must concentrate on making a good mid range product, just like the 7770, the r9 270/280, Rx 480 and Rx 5700 XT.
Of course flagships are cool and all, but who bought the fury x, r9 295x2, Vega 64 LC and Radeon VII brand new?
This must be this fine wine thing people keep banging on about
Fine wine: aka release a product with dogshit drivers and make them a little better over time.
Yeah I don’t understand the fine wine stuff. Its copium.
Ask: Would you rather get a product that is great on launch or want to wait 6months or even 2 years to get that great product drivers when the product itself is now beginning to age as a new generation arrives. And after you’ve probably played the game.
The RX480 was fine on launch and became a lot better with time, my 1060 6go not so much, the best upgrade i got was AMD FSR working on it. That’s what i call fine wine as an ex-nivida owner (who will replace is new 6700 10go by any good cards sub 300€ from any vendors in a few years).
edit : the 1060 6go still was a good buy and i was happy with it for it’s price, but for cheaper i could have had a RX480 at that time.
You can also enable SAM/Resizable BAR on Polaris 8GB GPUs with a registry edit it increases fps in alot of recent DX12 games
yeah lol. this also happens in the cpu side where people brag about upgrading their 2700X cpu to 5800x3d when 9900k users are stuck on their motherboards. meanwhile i’ve been enjoying the 9900k a lot more for a lot longer than they’ve upgraded haha
Thats not even a comparable argument
how is it not? they both copium about how the objectively shitty choice is ackchyually the ‘right’ choice because it wouldn’t be as shitty in the future
Not taking the bait
fine wine never was a thing. The drivers are just always trash at launch and get better in the following years.