• whiffle_boy@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    These threads are so amusing.

    I don’t even have to read the article, because the logic behind all of these arguments is so based in clickbait it’s laughable.

    AMD doesent want to compete. It isn’t “insert reason here” for them to.

    Same with them vs intel.

    Why else would a company that consistently dominates its competition be so absolutely dominated in every segment? These raptor lake refresh reviews are the perfect example of this, no it’s NOT a good thing, but people with my eyes need to be the ones reporting on this crap. AMD has no ability to ramp up to a level of their competitors, this is essentially guaranteed now. They have had constant opportunity for how many years now and have consistently set the bar low.

    This does not scream success, it screams complacency, and no matter how good your products are, if you cannot produce them, you cannot lead.

    The reason it’s ever certain now, the longer they wait, the more reliant they become on INTEL for fab space. No amount of anti consumer interference is going to allow AMD to pull a win out of that situation. Intel owns all of the power in that relationship. They can manipulate every single metric to benefit them along the way.

    These are the hard truths that the “teams” don’t and cannot grasp. Red and blue, green to a lesser extent, although that team is simply an excuse for anti human sentiment.

    It sucks, but it’s like the overall financial situation of the world, no one is willing to admit the issues because it unlocks the status quo.

  • danksSVK@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’d like a new GPU for 1440p without spending too much (I don’t play games that often to justify it). The choice is between RX 7800 XT and RTX 4070 then. The cheapest 7800 XT is like 50 euro cheaper than RTX 4070. The 50 euro difference gets you better upscaling, RT and drivers in general. I’d also need a new PSU for RX 7800 XT because it consumes more power while Nvidia’s more efficient. But 7800XT has more VRAM which is not to be ignored. The choice is not easy…

  • iamabadliar_@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Looks like they laid off engineers at their gpu division. So may be they’re loosing hope too. We can only hope that intel steps up

  • Jeep-Eep@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Usually their takes are better.

    Radeon is a side benefit of being able to make APUs even before the consoles, same with Intel staying around.

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    11 months ago

    The problem is that NVIDIA makes super high end chips for HPC and scales them down for gaming.

    AMD makes integrated graphics for APUs and SOCs and scales them up for gaming.

    So it will always be an uphill battle for AMD.

    Throw in historically low market share and competition from Intel on the low end, it may not be financially viable

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      11 months ago

      This is wrong on so many level.

      Nvidia’s “super high end chips” like V100, A100, and H100 meant for HPC don’t get used for high end gaming. In A100 and H100’s case, they don’t even have the full graphic pipeline, while Volta and Hopper don’t even have their gaming GPU counterparts.

      On the other hand, AMD’s APU would use the prior generation of GPU core compared to their discrete GPU.

      It’ll always be an uphill battle for AMD because they just don’t invest in their GPU division as much as their CPU division, and Nvidia, unlike Intel, continues to innovate and bring new technologies to the market. In short, AMD got lucky on the CPU side because it caught Intel napping.

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    11 months ago

    What does it mean? Even if AMD makes a better product people will still buy nvidia… what’s their point?

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      11 months ago

      This has never been proven as AMD has not made a better product for at least the last 15 years

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        11 months ago

        Every xx50 class GPU has been much worse than the AMD counterpart.

        And the xx60 class is not much better 2060 was worse than the 5700 3060 was worse than the 6600

        Yet, both classes nvidia outsells AMD everytime

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    11 months ago

    AMD is going to be driven by financials.

    In simple terms, if Profit > Costs then AMD will stick around regardless of market share or competitors performance.

    These guys will even run at a loss if there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

    What are the financial numbers? AMDs participation in the market is not driven by market share or hardware surveys. It’s driven by how much value the division returns to the company.

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    11 months ago

    Anyway, if you want predictions as to what will actually happen, here’s mine. RDNA 4 isn’t a console technology, so it will be half hearted, even more so than RDNA 3 in the RX 6000 family if the rumours are anything to go by. AMD will do RDNA 5 for desktop PCs. It’s very likely doing RDNA 5 (or Navi 5 if you prefer) for the next-gen consoles. So, it will be the fully funded effort and it will probably be pretty good.

    Can gamer writers stop parroting this stupid shit? Amd doesn’t “defund” their graphics architectures based on whether they’re consoles. They just happened to fuck up on rdna3 and ran into packaging design delays on high end rdna4. Nobody develops graphics aiming to lose, things just didn’t go their way that’s all. And no rdna2 ain’t created and funded by microsoft and sony

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    11 months ago

    You mean their strategy of copying Nvidias high prices for the current generation cards didn’t increase their market share??? I’m shocked. Shocked I say!

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    11 months ago

    IMO, AMD is in a rough spot. People want AMD to succeed so Nvidia lower the prices so they can buy Nvidia cards.

    Then you have AMD that had weird pricing on their latest gen cards which made people to push to Nvidia again. On top of that, Nvidia has the DLSS crap that was better than FSR. I don’t know how it compares now and I won’t talk about that, but last time I checked AMD still needed to improve.

    I want to upgrade my card, and I don’t care about the company behind it. I want a good deal for me. Sadly there’s nothing on the market that I can buy in my budget.

  • notimeforthatstuff@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Yeah PS5 and Xbox One all have AMD GPU’s in them, that is a lucrative contract or two right there. Makes no sense if they can’t compete on the high end that they wouldn’t stick with mid/low range cards plus Xbox and PlayStation.