Man like, I’m just so put off of the whole GPU market and high end PC gaming in general lately. I’ve been wanting to upgrade my 5700XT for ages and there’s nothing worth while to me.
I have zero confidence that Nvidia is going to make these cards a “good” value. They’ll probably slot them between the current stuff just perfectly enough to where neither comes out as better for the money and you still hardly get any price/performance gains.
Yeah same. These just look like a way to slightly iterate and make more margins in-between 40 and 50 series.
Hopefully they use the 50 series to recapture our respect, but I highly doubt it with how far behind AMD is. An AMD GPU isn’t even an option for me.
For reference:
Card name GPU Code name CUDA Cores L2 Cache (MB) 4090 AD102-300 16384 72 4080 Super AD103-400 10240 ?? 4080 AD103-300 9728 64 4070Ti Super AD102-175/AD103-275 8448 48 4070Ti AD104-400 7680 48 4070 Super AD103-175/AD103-350 7168 48 4070 AD104-250 5888 36 AD103 only has 64M L2 so if that’s what they’ll use then the 4080S will have the same similar to the 4070 cards maxing out at 48 on AD104. If these end up replacing the originals they could be interesting but ultimately I’m not too excited
When you put it on a table like this, 4080 Super -> 4070 Super range is getting too crowded for a 3K CUDA core spread.
If Nvidia follows their 20-series strategy, 4080 and 4070Ti gets replaced by their Super refresh at same MSRP while the 4070S takes the slot between 4070TiS and 4070.
Why don’t they just replace the 4080 and 4070Ti with higher Super prices? The performance is going up so they can claim higher pricing
Probably in-effect what’s going to happen. They won’t ‘discontinue’ the older cards, just never actually produce those chips for those SKUs.
With Turing they did officially discontinue the 2080 with the 2080 super replacing it at the same price
Same with the 3070Ti replacing the 3070, 3080Ti replacing the 3080
I wonder if we will also see the full GH100 chip soon.
Its quite scary that the current H100 is actually a cut down chip and is still that powerful
The full GH100 has 10% more cores, 20% more L2 cache and 1 more extra HBM3 stack.
Nvidia’s already announced a GH200 with 141 GB (presumably for partially defective stacks) of HBM3e. No additional cores enabled but I suspect memory performance is the biggest bottleneck anyway
EDIT: And H100 NVL with 96 GB of HBM3
I wonder if this means 16GB on both the xx70 models.
Also the 4070 Ti Super is a terrible name lmao.
They could only fit 16gb if they uses the 4080 chip due to memory bus width however the leak suggests they might just chip and increase performance, talking about 4070S.
Someone with “X” may ask Kopite about a mobile refresh for me?
Tiny increment in CUDA cores :(
That’s a good update for the 4070, the others are meh unless it comes with a price cut.
I suppose the use of faster ram could help the 4080 Super a bit. Seeing that it won’t be using a cut down 102 makes me at ease for picking up the heavily discounted 4080 I did in September.
Unfortunately the phrase price cut is not in Nvidia’s dictionary.
Didn’t they price cut the 4070?
Otherwise there wouldn’t be a “Super”. This is RTX 20 series again.
May I know what the issue about the RTX 20 series was?
Don’t think it will be priced the same though. The 4070 update is too good. I predict 699 or higher.
That would pointless at $150 more than the 4070 right now. This is a repeat of the RTX 2000 series where everyone thought the launch prices were insane with the “Founders” edition at $599, and even AIB models at $499 soon after. Half way through the generation they had like a 20% price cut to everything.
It’s not going to be more than $599, with the 4070 probably dropping to $499 considering how well the 7800xt is selling in comparison.
That only makes sense if the 4070ti super is also $100 more and the old 4070ti is gone. They have to either slot them in at the same prices or cut the old ones for it to work.
Having higher prices on the new cards would work just fine for them.
Why no rtx 4060 super 😢
Get ready for 4090 prices. Highly doubt there will be any cut. Until they get next gen cards in, big discounts are a dream
So is the 4050 desktop version never happening?
Thought I’d never see the day where Ti Super exist
Moaning about naming has got to be one of the consistently dumbest things on this sub.
What do you all think is more likely to happen: The 4080 super launches at $1200US and knocks the regular 4080 to $1000US or it launches at $1400US and lands in the middle of the 4080 / 4090 price range
If 'm being optimistic, and if they decide to keep all the older cards:
$1200 - 4080Ti 20G (based on the AD102)
$1000 - 4080 Super 16G
$900 - 4080 16G
$750 - 4070Ti Super 16G
$600 - 4070Ti 12G
$550 - 4070 Super 12G
$450 - 4070 12G
$375 - 4060Ti 16G
$325 - 4060Ti 8G
$250 - 4060 8GThey can just get replace the 4070ti 12G and the 4080 16G with the 4070 Super 12G ($600) and the 4070Ti Super 16G ($800) as they will be close enough performance wise.
I think it launches at $1200 and pushes 4080 down. That 4080 has just not gone well, it’s a little too expensive/too underpowered and I don’t think sales are where they want them. But it’s also not going to be that significant of a performance jump either so nothing to get excited about. If it was cut down 102 that would have been very interesting.
Wait, I thought it’s going to be cut down AD102, well that’s pretty lame. This is going to be a nothingburger.
I really doubt there will be a 4070 ti super. If anything itll be a 4070 ti 16gb vam similar to what was done with the 4060 ti. Ti super lol. Just sounds funny.