Unless there’s any major pain point with the current design, they will keep it. I could see them making a shell that has more slots for expansion cards, and make it so that future mobos could take advantage of that, or just have some.inaccessible slots if stuck into an OG shell.

Thanks for the info.

As a FW16 batch 2 person, I’m guessing all these issues will likely affect the 16 as well, and will get fixed for both laptops at the same time? The APUs are the game other than thermal limits right?

I’ve had soooo many cases of FedEx delivering my stuff to one of my neighbors. I do occasionally get my neighbor’s packages too. Even though we all have well labeled houses.

Additionally FedEx does shit like give you some reasonable shipping date, then it gets delayed by 2 days, then when the delay ends up being only 1 day, they pat themselves on the back for an “early” delivery. The math ain’t mathing bro.

Yeah part of what Framework wants to do is keep stable prices. That means overcharge for volatile components.

It runs great on the Steam Deck, so should be even better on the FW.

For most people it is. This product isn’t for most people though.

The buried lede here is we could’ve had four major players in the GPU space, if it weren’t for those meddling board members. This fourth one surely would’ve been built with compute in mind from the ground up, which might have finally put out a real competitor to CUDA.

Based

Valve surely understands how much people like skins and customization. I’m hoping by the time SD2 comes out, they’ll figure out how to just fully customize your own colorway when you order.

So everyone selling their OG 512GB Decks for ＄300-350 right now.

But Valve’s remaining stock of LCD 512s is retailing for ＄450, and the OLED 512 (without the etched screen) will retail for ＄550.

I think a used LCD 512 will be considered by many to be better than a new LCD 256 (priced at ＄400).

As such, I think my used LCD 512 will go for ＄450-500, so the upgrade to OLED will cost me＄50-100 net. (Unless I go for the limited edition, in which case obviously it’s a fair bit more.)

/hopium

I would for sure upgrade first

Me, 💯 upgrading. It’s little things, but it’s so many of them that it adds up. And I’m the kind of person that does in fact notice them.

My wife OTOH… the only difference she would notice is the longer charge cable so she’ll happily keep rocking her LCD.

I still need to make my mind up on whether I’m going for the limited edition or not. The price difference vs the 512 OLED is pretty reasonable. Like… I can certainly upgrade my own NVMe, slap on a matte screen protector, buy a fancier case, and swap out for a transparent shell once JSAUX makes one for the OLED. After I sell the old parts, that would probably put me about ＄100 in the hole. So ＄120 for all those upgrades is fair. Buttttt the only one of those upgrades I really really want is the transparent case. So yeah I need to decide on whether to upgrade everything, or wait to upgrade the just shell once someone makes an aftermarket one.

Yup, this is just a super pro-consumer move.

• discount existing products
• add new products with improved features
  • not just a few new features… address just about every pain point anyone has at least partially
• don’t hike up prices
• continue supporting old hardware long-term
  • VRR and HDR support
  • maintain same APU to entice devs to keep optimizing for it

Like bro, what more could you possibly want from a company?

How many batches were slated for Q4 again? It sounds like best case scenario they finish validation by end of month, and then they get maybe 4 weekly batches out this year.

Ok lads. Do we think they’re gonna fulfill all FW13 pre-orders before they start doing the 16s, or will they start the 16s soon?

I can see it going either way. Batches are about a week apart now, so they’d be done by end of November at current pace I think. Although… Thanksgiving? Then in Dec they need to get out ~4 FW16 batches? But I’m not sure how many FW16 batches are slated for Q4, and also… Xmas.

So it looks like it kinda just barely works to do all the 13s then all the 16s. But realistically I’d expect them to try and to push out FW16 batches 1&2 in Nov, then work on ramping up 16s as they ramp down the 13s.

ai upscaling

AMD FSR probably works fine on Apple hardware? I have no idea if some mobile game would bother porting it because I don’t think there any official support from AMD; but in principle you should be able to get decent upscaling without AI.

let’s ignore the fact that apple always improve their chips every year and fantasize that for some reason they’ve topped out at their current levels but at the same time Qualcomm will keep chugging forward and so clearly Apple is getting smoked next year

what a weird take