• heartscockles@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Get ready for the Genius Bar to erase your devices and say “you wanted us to fix this 3rd party mess you created for yourself? Here, we fixed it”

  • MrSh0wtime3@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I dont really understand why people want it. Many of us got this out of our system in our youth on Androids. The shit apps you have to sideload are 99.9% of the time shit apps. And thats best case scenario.

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Because some people refuse to pay for YouTube Premium just to be able to watch videos or listen to music on YouTube. Some people want to download emulators. Others might want to be able to save videos and stories from apps like Tiktok or Instagram. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean there’s no reason.

  • mr_painz@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    My issue with side loading is what the developers can bake into the app “features” that Apple and its security departments won’t know. Could be metrics and gps data, keylogger, maybe it lets you share malware or tracker software via an exploit with airdrop. Who knows what’s out there but I don’t trust any company to adhere to data privacy rules. It’s been done time and again and results in a lawsuit to delete said data.

  • BonusStat@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    All apple has to do is to not charge so much for subscriptions to the point where you need to subscribe from a computer to avoid taxes and this wouldn’t have happened

    Regulate your greed or UE is coming from you

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    10 months ago

    Tbh, I know that some malicious apps will rise, some bots, trojans, etc. But let karma do the job and for those that think that side-loading is a good idea, well, cross your fingers and hope that your phone doesn’t get infected. Because it’s 0 apple responsibility now. So, emptied bank account? Identity theft? Trojans controlling your chats and blackmailing you? iPhone borked by another fucked up virus?

    Sorry mate, not apple business now. You’re by your own.

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      10 months ago

      I’ve sideloaded for 10 years or so and my phone has not been infected. It’s not that dangerous. Clearly most of the comments here have no experience or knowledge about sideloading.

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    10 months ago

    Really hope we get ipa files for old games that got removed off the App store. legend: blood and glory, lanesplitter, cod zombies, cod black ops zombies

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    10 months ago

    Should side-loading be allowed? From a consumer point of view, absolutely.

    Will it also be a nightmare for Apple? Also yes. Just wait till boomers and dumb teenagers load malware onto her iPhone and some poor schmuck at the Apple Store has to deal with it. Keeping the iPhone locked to the App Store is far simpler for Apple and makes the phones more reliable. It’s also hella profitable.

    For those of us who know what we’re doing, it would be awesome to have access to apps that Apple might not otherwise not allow. It’ll also give developers more freedom.

    But you gotta remember that the general population is dumb and does dumb shit.

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      10 months ago

      It’s easy to manage the situation in reality, when you download from third party sources you put a disclaimer that warns of the possible consequences, if there are problems Apple washes its hands of it and off you go

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    10 months ago

    Will this open up the real Jailbreak again?

    If yes it would be nice to run Linux on an IOS device.

    Apple should make an IOS version to opt out side loading, not everyone want to be hacked.

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    10 months ago

    I’ll be honest, as much as I agree with the freedom of choice on that matter. He is not wrong to say that if you can only download apps from the App Store, that closes a massive security hole. I’m not looking forward to having to troubleshoot grandmas iPhone because she downloaded the wrong thing looking for a recipe but it’ll be nice to not be confined to the rules of the corporate overlords. Pros and cons.

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        10 months ago

        Exactly, and now 99.9% of us will have to deal with the decreased security just because those 0.1% couldn’t just go buy a fucking Android

    • FlibblesHexEyes@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      This is my concern too. We already have quite sophisticated scams guiding people to install TeamViewer, AnyDesk, etc on PC’s; you can bet they’ll adapt their techniques to work on iPhones too, guiding grandpa through side loading malicious software.

      Hopefully iOS will make a distinction between side loaded and AppStore loaded apps and adjust permissions accordingly (via a VM, container, or some other mechanism).

      Obviously not perfect, but security is a never ending game of cat and mouse.

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      10 months ago

      Just makes me think of my coworker whose samsung phone had so much random crap on it that every other tap on the screen would trigger a 30 second ad, sometimes followed by a second or third ad. Took forever just to get to the Settings app. Ended up having to boot into safe mode and removing a good chunk of apps for him.

    • user1928473829@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Legit question, is side loading not already offered in some way? I thought sideloading is when you can download an app straight off a web browser. I’ve done that before multiple times for work apps.

      Or is it specific to purchases for paid apps?

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      10 months ago

      If your gradma knows how to sideload apps you have bigger security concerns than that.

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        10 months ago

        “If you know where you’re downloading apps from” a lot of people don’t, and still do it.

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      10 months ago

      No matter how you do it, opening another channel of app installation will always make a device „less secure“. It’s in the very nature. Users have to be more careful with sideloaded apps and the OS has to tighten security.

      I‘m not worried though, mostly because of one thing: Even on Android I hardly know anybody who actually sideloaded apps. And I guess iOS will do more than its fair share of warning users not to do it.

      I mostly look forward to it for Fortnite and some emulators.

      • taxis-asocial@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        You’re missing the actual problem, though. Right now the OS is written in such a way that it rejects running any apps not signed by Apple, always.

        In the future it won’t.

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      10 months ago

      But this is a tad ridiculous. Sideloading on Android has always been a thing, the average user has no idea what it is or how to do it.

      Yes, it’s safer within the app store. No, granny won’t accidentally install something, you need to allow installs from the source, accept permissions, clear the “are you sure” security screen, then finally choose between install and cancel, before getting one last security screen, “app was downloaded from the internet”.

      The concept of security is correct, your anecdote is a false example of it.

      • taxis-asocial@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        No, granny won’t accidentally install something,

        Maybe not, but hackers can install apps that aren’t signed by Apple and now they’ll run

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      10 months ago

      Just dont be srupid and you will be fine. And sideloading actually requires turning it on for each app in the settings so you cant do it by accident

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    10 months ago

    What we will get is multiple app stores under the App Store app. Sideloading runs a very risk of injecting malware unless Apple is willing to introduce the iOS equivalent of Windows Defender we’ve seen since Windows 8.0, in my opinion.