It seems like everyone here like the 40Hz mode, and while I do agree it’s much better than 30fps, 45fps is where games start to feel like close to 60fps. It’s only difference of 5fps but it really goes from a better 30 to substitute 60.

I know 40fps has a frame time exactly halfway between 30 and 60, so I was expecting it to feel like it. But it’s not smooth enough to feel like 60fps.

I’ve seen 40fps content on YouTube on my 120Hz phone screen (no irregular frames then), as there are many displays of ps5 games running at 40fps. And yes, several videos did have a side by side comparison with 30fps and I could see a difference. I’ve tried 40fps on 40Hz on my Steam deck and it’s the same.

I’ve made the mistake of thinking 45-60fps was just 60fps locked, I’ve played several 60fps game in my time (and even 120fps, although rarely) and 45 is pretty close. I can only notice missing frames in a side by side comparison of 45 and 60, otherwise when you are in game paying attention you won’t notice it much.

    • alt123456789o@alien.topOPB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      You missed my point, 45fps is the minimum where imo games start feeling smooth like 60fps. I guess it is subjective but that’s what I’ve noticed. Obviously 60 is better than 45 but if you need to save battery then 45 is a decent replacement, save those 15fps which is significant.

      • PhattyR6@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        I get your overarching point, but like the statement “45fps feels better than 40fps is a no brainer.

        • alt123456789o@alien.topOPB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          And my point is the difference of 5fps creates a much bigger change visually than expected. It’s more but only 5fps more. 45fps is a minimum for smooth gameplay, not 40 imo.

  • i_cant_take_a_joke_@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Yup, been saying this many times and always got downvoted, people brainlessly keep saying 40hz is the best sweet spot when infact 45hz feels closer to 60 and 40 feels closer to 30 without losing much battery

    But to each their own i guess

    • alt123456789o@alien.topOPB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      I’ve just been playing Black Mesa at 45Hz on the deck, I’m surprised at how smooth it is. Like the movements of the gun when still look really good. I see a difference when put to 60Hz though. But it’s something you can live without.

  • Facehugger_35@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    The reason why folks suggest 40fps over 45 is because the Deck can reliably hit 40 in a much wider variety of games. 45 is a better experience, but it’s harder to reach in most games.

    • alt123456789o@alien.topOPB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      This is true, I don’t doubt it’s harder to get a locked out mostly locked 45fps compared to 40. But 45 looks much better with only a relatively minor increase in FPS.

  • MetroYoshi@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    FPS is an inverse relation, so let’s bring the seconds back into the numerator and use frametimes instead. 60fps is about 16.7ms per frame, 30fps is about 33.3ms. 40fps is 25ms, which is exactly halfway between 30 in 60. In other words, for only 10fps more, you’re basically achieving 50% of the improvement from 30 to 60. This is one reason why 40Hz is so well-loved.

    45fps is about 22.2ms. This is exactly 2/3rds of the way from 30 to 60. So yes, that 5fps is definitely a marked improvement. You’re achieving 66% of the improvement for only 15fps over 30. But the improvements have diminished. The higher the fps gets, the less significant each individual frame is, meanwhile the additional performance required to reach it doesn’t change at all.

    This is all to say that you’re right, and it’s not really an unpopular opinion (or really an opinion at all). Yes, 45fps is great on the Deck, and the experience will be much closer to 60fps than some may realize. But not all games can run at 45, and many games that can’t run at 45 will run at 40, so it’s not like people are choosing to run at a lower fps just for shits and giggles.