I don’t care for ray tracing either but path tracing on the other hand I think it’s important and represents the future of 3D gaming graphics and right now AMD GPUs can’t do Path tracing at all
AMD isn’t the ‘cheaper’ options anymore they’re almost pricing matching Nvidia for performance while offering less features and worse power efficiency
for example I’m looking to build a new budget pc and i was looking at RX 7600 but over here it cost only 20 or 30 euro less than the RTX 4060, which makes no sense because the 4060 has slightly better raster performance way better ray tracing capabilities better reconstruction tech (DLSS) and and almost half the power consumption so buying AMD makes no sense
Your comment will not hold up for even one day. Alan Wake 2 releases tomorrow with pathracing and from the looks of it any 4000 series GPU except for maybe the 4060 will handle pathtracing.
The later path tracing updates to classic games Serious Sam and Doom had the 6900XT close to 3070 performance. Now that intel is also in the fray and are said to have better RT hardware, if not on par with nvidia, they can also be used as a benchmark reference. The RTXDI updates to Portal and Cyberpunk have quite poor numbers on AMD and also on intel.
Arc770 goes from being ~50% faster than 2060 to 2060 being 25% faster when you change from RT Ultra to Overdrive.
I benched 6800XT vs 4090 in the old PT updated games and heavy RT games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk, and 4090 was close to 3.5x of 6800XT. The problem with AMD this gen is that they lost the clockspeed crown they had last gen and so they have to compete against 4080 in raster while being beaten in RT, instead of 6900XT matching 3070 in RT while outpacing it handily in raster.
It sucks looking at these benchmarks and see how far less features, customisations, official tools, 3rd-party utilities, and support Radeon has compared to GeForce. Overall, I’m glad sticking with GeForce aside from lower default IQ and CQ, of course.
I don’t care for ray tracing either but path tracing on the other hand I think it’s important and represents the future of 3D gaming graphics and right now AMD GPUs can’t do Path tracing at all
AMD isn’t the ‘cheaper’ options anymore they’re almost pricing matching Nvidia for performance while offering less features and worse power efficiency
for example I’m looking to build a new budget pc and i was looking at RX 7600 but over here it cost only 20 or 30 euro less than the RTX 4060, which makes no sense because the 4060 has slightly better raster performance way better ray tracing capabilities better reconstruction tech (DLSS) and and almost half the power consumption so buying AMD makes no sense
The only card that can is a 4090 and it can do it in exactly one game.
None of the cards you are buying right now will do path tracing on future games. None.
Just look at Nividia 2000 series. They do “raytracing”. For all the good it will do you.
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Alan Wake 2 comes out tomorrow and according to reviews, it looks phenomenal in PT.
My 4070 Ti can do path tracing just fine.
Your 4070 Ti on path tracing
Oh, I forgot to mention, I play at 1080p, not 4K. Path tracing at 4K for a 4070 Ti is unreasonable anyway; the 4070 Ti is primarily a 1440p card.
Your comment will not hold up for even one day. Alan Wake 2 releases tomorrow with pathracing and from the looks of it any 4000 series GPU except for maybe the 4060 will handle pathtracing.
The later path tracing updates to classic games Serious Sam and Doom had the 6900XT close to 3070 performance. Now that intel is also in the fray and are said to have better RT hardware, if not on par with nvidia, they can also be used as a benchmark reference. The RTXDI updates to Portal and Cyberpunk have quite poor numbers on AMD and also on intel.
Arc770 goes from being ~50% faster than 2060 to 2060 being 25% faster when you change from RT Ultra to Overdrive.
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Serious-Sam-The-First-Encounter-Spiel-32399/Specials/SeSam-Ray-Traced-Benchmark-Test-1396778/2/#a1
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4060-gaming-x/34.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/cyberpunk-2077-rt-overdrive-path-tracing-full-path-tracing-fully-unnecessary
I benched 6800XT vs 4090 in the old PT updated games and heavy RT games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk, and 4090 was close to 3.5x of 6800XT. The problem with AMD this gen is that they lost the clockspeed crown they had last gen and so they have to compete against 4080 in raster while being beaten in RT, instead of 6900XT matching 3070 in RT while outpacing it handily in raster.
It sucks looking at these benchmarks and see how far less features, customisations, official tools, 3rd-party utilities, and support Radeon has compared to GeForce. Overall, I’m glad sticking with GeForce aside from lower default IQ and CQ, of course.
I agree in that I think the hardware difference isn’t that big as people are making it out to be, and AMD won’t catch up on software.
They do have some advantages, eyefinity for which I bought 6800XT and now that driver level FG.