Especially with the 3.5 preview/beta update I’ve been seeing a lot of people say that the stuff CryoUtilities does is wack and doesn’t really work, and one dude even went as far as to call it a placebo in a post where I mentioned it.

Does stuff like the swap file and swappiness, amongst other things, really boost performance and all that? Or is it just a waste of time and (storage) space?

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    Even if it’s a waste of time/storage it’s minimal. Setting it up takes less than a minute, and it takes up nearly no space. You used up more time to write your questions than installing it would.

    Now, the placebo guy really hates Cryo and will go everywhere and hate on it. I don’t understand why. Might be his full time job. He should just make a youtube video with performance comparisons to show off how it doesn’t work.

    Meanwhile Cryo when publishing his tools showed performance comparisons before and after. He even showed that the tools had negative performance effect in some games. So I don’t think it’s placebo, when you can have repeatable changes in performance.

    That said even the ones shown by Cryo were very minimal. Some people come over here and tell us that unstable 20FPS games work with stable 40FPS with Cryo. You are NOT getting this kind of boost from Cryo. Usually the gains, if any, will be very minor, very often limited to better 1% lows, lower stutters. But even before CryoUtils there would be people reporting new AAA games running at 1440p60 on SD on high, when reality was it barely worked in 720p with FSR2 on medium/high mix.

    So, better question would be “I have issues with how game X plays on SD. Will Cryo help or make it even worse?”

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      He should just make a youtube video with performance comparisons to show off how it doesn’t work.

      he cant dot hat, it would reveal his lies.

      NEver mind setting swap tendencies and swap size does have a proven benefit

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      Now, the placebo guy really hates Cryo and will go everywhere and hate on it. I don’t understand why. Might be his full time job. He should just make a youtube video with performance comparisons to show off how it doesn’t work.

      this shit always makes me laugh “here let me insert shit to try and discredit anything he has said even though he himself has posted videos showing that cryos bullshit is a lie” man people are really desperate to make me look dumb its funny

      people want to fall for dumb shit thats on them but the shit I say unlike cryos false claims are easily researchable. like shit he tries to claim a swap file is faster than zram that alone should be a huge red flag to ANYBODY. but if people want to be dumb and continue to think things such as turning off ram defragmentation is a good thing then there is no helping them

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      Meanwhile Cryo when publishing his tools showed performance comparisons before and after

      The issue is that he’s really the only one who’s properly benchmarked his own tool. Given how prevalent it is I’d have expected someone else like DF to properly look at it.

      So, better question would be “I have issues with how game X plays on SD. Will Cryo help or make it even worse?”

      That’s the best way to treat it for me. The only game I’ve ever had to use it for was God of War, and I noticed no improvement with anything else I played.

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        Yeah, that’s surprising that people can argue whenever it works for months, but no one wants to actually put in the work to check. I guess it’s too small of a topic for DF. Maybe now when OLED will be out their cover it more, as their resident handheld gamers hated the old screen :D

        I liked that Cryo would sometimes make a vids for certain games to check which settings from his tools should be used, and how, to get most out of the game. Even Cryo doesn’t believe this is silver bullet that “fixes” steam deck.

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        While I am surprised that there aren’t more benchmarks out, this isn’t a paid tool. If you spend the 5 minutes it takes to try it, and don’t feel like it was worth it then simply uninstall like anything else.

        He’s not asking for money or begging for donations and I feel that makes a big difference on how much professional scrutiny is required

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        10 months ago

        If there was an easy way to log data like the frame times on the Deck, then there probably would be at least a few people doing benchmarks.