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It just needs better prompts tbh
rn the prompts all sound like/r/AskReddit titlesWell, I like it that way! It feels more like a journal to log your day, and your life! Integrating with Mood Tracking would be good too, like Stoic. does.
I mean, it’s a brand new feature, the “basicness” will fade with time…
All Apple apps are basic, lacking both in features and customization. That does not fade. It’s why people spend a small fortune buying third party alternatives to Apple’s default apps.
Off the top of my head I can only think of Notability as something I paid for.
Apple gonna do FB better that FB does FB. I bet there’s gonna be joint Moments down the line and before you know it, the Journal app is FB
If Apple wanted social media they’d have done it a long time ago. Ping and OS integrations will be as far as they’d go. However, I agree about ‘shared moments’. It’ll be a closed loop like with Photos or Notes, you can share with those you trust.
I believe you may think of social media wrong. The best social media is an independent function that you do - that then you’d like to share.
This is why most social medias have failed. They try to get “big” first - and there no reason for someone to use it for its stand alone function.
A concert, can be a stand alone function if you ever were the only one there. But a concert is much better when everyone is together.
I believe Apple understands this, and I can see a potential future where it creates something really neat that people want to share - and the social network gets built off of that
I’m disappointed this is iPhone only.
As opposed to iPad/Mac?
I’m sure it is iPhone only for now, they will definitely launch it on iPad and then Mac.
Like the calculator and weather app…
Y’all need to stop spreading this, until it’s actually confirmed one way or the other. The only thing that has actually happened is that the first beta of iOS 17.2 only had the journal app for iPhone.
Spreading what? It’s literally iOS only, until Apple notifies people otherwise.
It’s exclusively been mentioned alongside iOS 17, not iPadOS or macOS.
Apple has not confirmed one way or the other. Go find where they have. (Totally possible it ends up being iPhone-only, but again, not confirmed.)
“What could you do to make someone’s day better this week?” one of them asks. “Write about a time you found an unexpected solution to a hard problem,” reads another.
I didn’t realize the journal app was just asking people to rewrite college application essays lol
Yeah this is the biggest ick for me. I find the prompts cringey or downright asinine. This trend of coaching/prompting entries in various services/apps is very off-putting. Like advertisements and propaganda telling you want to think and buy werent enough, now people need to be coached about what to think about for a journal entry? Truly people are getting dumber, and Apple increasingly treating consumers as dumb as the lowest rung. Not a good long term outlook.
Have you ever bought a physical journal? Journal prompts that you can choose to use or not are extremely common in physical journals. This isn’t anything different.
yes, thats what I’m afraid of. Currently I am using pages to write journals myself, and I frequently use tables, different highlighting tools as well as insert images in to pages documents. wonder how journal app will do compare to pages.
Is there any reason to move from Google Keep to it?
Trouble is I use a lot of different devices and not all of them are Apple.
I don’t currently journal but I’ll give this a spin when it’s released
I can see the value of this. I already can see some value to logging my mood each day. Adding more context to each day is a way to see what really improves your life and what doesn’t.
If we can ever get phones to have functioning AI the journaling should happen mostly automatically. Apple should already be able to guess my mood given that I wear a AW 23 hours a day and have my phone with me at all times. It should be able to very accurately guess the important high points of the day.
I’ve actually been loving logging my mood and never miss a prompt. It’s actually really insightful to look back and see patterns and trends. I think the journal will be similar and expect so use it regularly as well, even as someone who’s never been inclined to journal.
Jesus christ. Having AI automatically “journal” is completely antithetical to what journaling, and the reflection it encourages to do, is about. Not everything has to be automated and take minimal effort.
I don’t quite understand why something like this needs to be an OS feature. I understand the benefit of the OS providing the “Moments” but this seems much more like a feature that can be exposed by an API that third party apps than can make use of.
I think it’s good in terms of, if the technology already exists, let Apple make a demo app that the competition needs to surpass, as a baseline. If there are paid journal apps, now they probably need to step up.
I don’t really trust any company but apple with data like this.
Which is fair, but at the same time a solvable problem. The app could process everything locally and save it in your iCloud account, no need for the other company to have your data ever.
Also the same argument can be made about so many other things. You can’t record a workout on your iPhone if you don’t have a Apple Watch so you need a third party app like Strava to record it. So Strava gets quite some health information about me. Is Apple supposed to also create a full alternative for that too? Where do you draw the line what Apple is responsible for solving?
It’s not really solvable. Either you give the smartphone usage data to third parties or you don’t. I much prefer not to.
The best solution, from my POV, is an app that syncs via your own cloud account instead of a central server. Expoentially less risk that way.
I’d much rather it be an OS feature and end to end encrypted. I trust Apple 10000x more to actually E2EE my data as opposed to trusting some random app developer, and journals are personal.
Right. I own many apple computers and an android phone so i have to use one Day One so I can edit everywhere.
but this seems much more like a feature that can be exposed by an API that third party apps than can make use of.
iirc that is an API they’re making? But it might only be to provide data to this journal app.
I actually disagree here. The API would give quite broad access of your data to any 3p app. This is something that really needs to be a 1P feature for it to be secure.
Almost every example I’ve seen of the AppStore has been compromised on some way, either shifty data practices, crappy monetisation methods, or just kind of bad.
Apple only has to nail the basics to make almost every single competitor on the market obsolete overnight.
Did you read the article? It is
I mean it’s technically not an OS level feature if it comes in the form of an app. And Moments is available through the Suggestion API.
That’s what this is. The app is is just making use of the new API.
I know I it’s Verge article by looking at the title
Your phone is the only device that both knows you were on the phone with your boyfriend for an hour and that immediately afterward you listened to 11 straight Dashboard Confessional songs.
Dead. Fucking love it
It prompted me to create a voice memo complimenting the most creative person I know. Journaling already isn’t really for me but recording myself complimenting people in a journal for myself that other people won’t see or hear isn’t really something I want to do.