• Lankonk@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    They mean the 16 pro, right? Because in all likelihood, the 16 will use the A17 Pro or something equivalent.

    I’m also not confident that a phone chip will be strong enough to run a LLM like ChatGPT within the next 5 years. I am aware of LLMs that can run on phones right now, but they’re slow and they’re incapable of tasks that require a moderate level of thought. I’m not optimistic about the capabilities of these exclusive features, if they are coming.

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    10 months ago

    Every generation has had hardware exclusive AI features — usually in the form of camera improvements.

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      10 months ago

      Exactly, so if these AI features are exclusive, wouldn’t be different from Apple’s typical behavior

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    10 months ago

    The current generation doesn’t even use the AI capabilities on the CPU. And with future capabilities it’ll likely be cloud based anyways…

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    10 months ago

    It’s not new anymore that newer devices with newer chips would have exclusive features.

    I’ve long thought there’s no point in future proofing for my purchases simply because there’s always going to be something new that requires new hardware.

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    10 months ago

    I feel this would be a big mistake, they need to get AI features to as many people as quickly as possible to not look like they are behind and to not look like they are purposefully making old devices obsolete. I know that they like to do on device but if they can’t do that on the last few gens of phones they need to just eat it and do it server side or partially server side until a few years of phones can handle it on device.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, I think they might be gating AI but I think it would feel a bit silly in practice due to the strong and rising competition that works on all modern iPhones, voice commands and all. Sure, a Siri 2 would be able to integrate into the device and activate features, but that’s basically it and that’s not what has wowed people about AI, or even anything new.

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      10 months ago

      All they care is about upsell to newer iphones otherwise revenue growth will stagnate by a lot. Just look at their mac with 8gb ram.

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          10 months ago

          They must be terrified seeing revenue drop that much from a quarter with new M-series machines to one at the tail end of product refresh.

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          10 months ago

          Mac revenue got crushed partially because I think M1 chips were so good that they can’t expect people to upgrade yet. I mean they aren’t even really trying, the M3 presentation was all about getting Intel users to upgrade. Apple has painted themselves into a corner with how good M1 was.

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            10 months ago

            Was it? I thought they focused on comparing it to the M1 in all of their charts from what I remember. I don’t remember much about intel compared to the m1 presentation but I could be wrong.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah but this is why they are shipping with 8gb ram. They are smart. They will push everyone to upgrade in a few years when their 8gb ram m1 and m2 starts to become slower with AI features in macos.

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      10 months ago

      Well I get your point but there isn’t much to be offered hardware wise to make a new phone each year and they need arguments for new phones. Apple is a publicly traded company and with its high value it has to make bigger earnings every year. So if there is a way they get away with this they will do it.

      Even though you can’t compare it perfectly they probably looking at google who seem to get away with only offering their advanced ai features on the new flagship phone even though the standard variant has comparable and so capable hardware for the job.

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    10 months ago

    X to doubt. Apple “usually” plans these changes in ahead so other devices can take advantage of it. Not saying that is the case here at all as there are times it did.

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      10 months ago

      ChatGPT is just 1 year old. And only recently has it become feasible to run LLMs locally on-device. Apple couldn’t really have planned for it hardware-wise.

      A common requirement for these LLMs and stable diffusion models is large memory requirement, which Apple has always been stingy with. Only with the newer hardware do I foresee them increasing base memory, if they want to make AI more accessible.

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    10 months ago

    Forget about this I just want to know what Apple next Carbon Neutral achievement is and what theyre doing to save the Planet /s

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    10 months ago

    Apple need to stop making jailbreaking so hard so they can steal ideas from the tweaks. All major ios features were stolen jailbroken tweaks.

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      10 months ago

      No they weren’t. It’s not like as if Apple launched iOS 1.0 and said, “that’s it gang, we’re finished!” They were fully intent on continuing to develop it, often implementing things they were first with from macOS.

      Apple does things very methodically and given how problems can have a huge impact on a product representing both what drives a multi-trillion company as well as what depends on carrier service providers from around the world, it’s often that jailbreak developers got ahead of what Apple was doing or planning.

      Copy & Paste, was first with a jailbreak, but absolutely Apple was going to do this. Video recording, same, and worth noting the jailbreak version sucked. Folders, widgets, control panel… all something Apple had done with macOS long before iOS and were inevitable things.

      Don’t get me wrong, the jailbreak community back in the day was awesome and provided all kinds of features before Apple got around to introducing them. While many of these were novel and innovative, I wouldn’t say the majority didn’t have prior art on macOS, let alone to say that “All major iOS features were stolen from jailbreak tweaks”.

      Also worth noting is that the reason why there was jailbreaking was due to flaws in iOS which potentially posed security risks and Apple patching those is a good thing.