Hello,

I’m going to buy one of these as an upgrade from a 12th gen. For 90% gaming usage which do you think would be a better way to go? There is only a $180.00 price difference between the two. I’m going to be pairing this with an MSI Z790 EDGE DDR4 motherboard with 4000 CL14 4x8 ram. I also currently already have a corsair 360 AIO. Does the 14900k have a better memory controller? I’ve also read that APO is only available currently on the 14900k? I’m not sure if that’s accurate or not? Which one would you guys go with? Thx

  • artifex78@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Benefits are marginal as for now. APO might be a game changer in the future. It works on 14700k and 14900k. But it’s too early to tell. APO aside, you gain only a little bit of performance. It’s not worth the price tag, in my opinion.

    Anyway, if it’s for gaming, the 14700k is the better choice. If you undervolt/oc it a bit, you get a similar performance for a cheaper price.

    You also don’t need a Z790 unless your plan is an aggressive OC. A Z690 is most likely enough.

    And if you buy a new mainboard, consider switching to DDR5. 4 sticks will be very difficult to get stable in OC situations.

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    1 year ago

    Also do you think my Z790 motherboard has enough VRM’s or are there any other issues that would prevent it from properly running a 14900k? thx

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    1 year ago

    there is not much point upgrading from 12th gen rn, but it really depends which games you play and if you run many intensive tasks. 14700K should play most games smooth like butter and with great fps, but if you really want to 14900K would probably last a little longer

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      1 year ago

      I’m going to use my 12th gen kn a different computer. From everything I’ve watched/heard the 13 an 14th gen are huge upgrades from 12th gen?

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        1 year ago

        From everything I’ve watched/heard the 13 an 14th gen are huge upgrades from 12th gen?

        Yes, in Cinebench, Blender, Handbrake video conversion, and 7-zip, there’s a significant difference. There’s also a significant difference if you’re into HWBot stuff like SuperPI, Geekbench, and y-cruncher and your 12th gen doesn’t support AVX512.

        For gaming purposes however, you’re looking at 15% at best

      • Tatoe-of-Codunkery@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        There is an upgrade for sure , and APO is only supported by 14th gen. I have the 14900k and love it , I upgraded from a 5800x3d and my 4090 can fly free now

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          1 year ago

          Thx. I’m leaning that way because the cost difference is so minimal at the moment.

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      1 year ago

      14700K should play most games smooth like butter and with great fps, but if you really want to 14900K would probably last a little longer

      Lol, by “a little longer”, do you mean 10 days? Because the performance difference between a 13600K and 14900K in terms of gaming isn’t large enough that I’d consider the 14900K more “futureproof”.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, having more e-cores won’t extend the window of gaming usability

        By the time, a decade from now, that games hammer CPU’s, all current gen will not be enough.

        CPU’s age with gaming on only two factors, IPC and cache. core counts, especially e-core, doesn’t matter “as much”.

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    1 year ago

    I don’t see a point in upgrading from what you have to a 13 or a 14 gen chip. I feel you are looking to just spend money to feel validated and that is fine. Wouldn’t be the last.

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    1 year ago

    If you think $180 is not that much money then get the 14900K. You won’t see that much difference over the 12900K in gaming but it’s not about that is it? I upgraded from a 12600K to a 14700K and see quite a big difference in CPU heavy games. All cores running at 5.5GHz is quite impressive.

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    1 year ago

    wont make an iota of a difference. get the cheapest one.

    a ddr4 platform will though. 12gen with ddr5 is faster than 14th gen with ddr4… so you re wasting your money on ddr4

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      1 year ago

      I already have DDR4 and a motherboard so you obviously didn’t read the post. And no there is not currently any DDR5 ram faster than DDR4 4000 CL14 that will run stable

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        1 year ago

        And no there is not currently any DDR5 ram faster than DDR4 4000 CL14 that will run stable

        Uh…

        DDR5-6000 CL30 is roughly 80% faster in most memory-limited benchmarks unless you’re tuning subtimings. At tuned subtimings, DDR5-6000 will “only” win out 60%

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    1 year ago

    Cpu is less important at higher res, and with weaker graphics cards.

    If you have a top tier card (4080, 4090 or 7900xtx) and you game at 1080 you will see a big jump in many games. But at 4k the only way you will see much difference is with a 4090.

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    1 year ago

    Wait, hold up.

    You don’t care about the price difference between a 14700 and a 14900, and are concerned about memory performance, yet you plan to purchase a motherboard that doesn’t support DDR5 just to stick with your existing set of RAM - a paltry 32GB across 4 modules, to save a few bucks there??

    Bro none of this makes sense. You need to research more about 13/14th gen.

    Absolutely want to go DDR5. Moreover, do not fill all the ram slots if you want the best memory performance. Get two high capacity DIMMs and only use those. You lose memory performance running 4 sticks with these cpus.

    I got the gskill 6400mhz 2x 48GB set.

    Sticking with your old memory and a motherboard that won’t support the latest generation is nonsensical.