Have anyone used or bought this laptop how does it perform? Is it a good deal? I tend to use it for programming not gaming.

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    10 months ago

    Performance wise it is far from the best, but for that price I’d say it’s pretty good

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    10 months ago

    Price for fine for that, given you got a GPU in there at $550.

    But, you’ll want to add more RAM - 8gb wouldn’t cut it in 2013 with X Rebirth, nevermind 2023. This isn’t 2011 landscape here. If you are buying this laptop - get another 8gb RAM and kick it up to at least 16gb RAM in total, if possible.

    I can literally soak 10-16gb RAM usage easy on Days Gone at 1080p at maxed-out; and at least 10gb RAM on RE: Village - and these are NOT the newest of PC titles. So, gives you an idea why I say you should have 16gb RAM in total at least.

    Technical stuff: if there’s 2 RAM slot for spots there in the PC - then you have already one stick of 8gb in there already (from buying the PC) and then say you do say get another 8gb RAM-stick so you stick that in; you can dual-channel now. This combo of 2 sticks of 8 will work together and also dual-channel the RAM, making it use more lanes and run even faster.

    So, for dual-channeling: always do that. It’s always best for RAM to double-up - have 2 sticks of 8 (for total of 16gb RAM with dual-channel); or say 2 sticks of 16gb RAM each (for a total 32gb RAM with dual-channel support); pr say 2 sticks of 32gb RAM each (for a total of 64gb RAM with dual-channel support); etc etc. You get the picture.

    But if you want to play current and upcoming demanding games - think Alan Wake 2, Avatar TON, Diablo 4, Silent Hill 2 Remake, and anything else that really wants 8gb VRAM to actually run properly at 1080p at probably Medium or better - get a PC with a better GPU.

    3050’s are budget GPU’s - as they end in 50. xx50 = budget; xx60 = mid-range; xx70 = enthusiast; xx80 = super-enthusiast; xx90 = you got Richie Rich money and just want the best of the best.

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      10 months ago

      I already have a 8gb ram from my brother,and i asked this laptop have extra slots for upgrading the ram so that shall not be the problem, I really thank you for that long explanation it really was helpful but lets say i only use this laptop for programming cause im no fan of playing on laptop i tend to do work(programming) on this laptop so should that be good?

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        10 months ago

        Upgrading to 16gb RAM should be your first order here, if you buy this. Either that or buy a laptop already equipped with 16gb RAM or better.

        I can’t speak for that programming aspect, as I don’t do programming these days. Ain’t done that in forever, TBH.

        Keep in mind, you posted a “gaming” laptop here - and I use that term “gaming” loosely, as its specs for such a task is budget and low for modern stuff - so I replied about gaming usage b/c it’s branded as such.

        It certainly would be fine for older X1 and PS4 era of PC games, if you go down the gaming rabbit hole here.

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    10 months ago

    How’s the screen color gamut sRGB/NTSC value?

    This is a big deal, imho, bigger deal than 120Hz refresh rates (we rarely achieve 100 fps in games anyway, especially with budget GPU)

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        10 months ago

        Color will look washed out, i personally won’t buy it.

        Think about it, you’ll stare at your screen most of time.

        Those 144Hz screen won’t mean a thing, you likely play most games lower than 100fps, most of the time.

        But, your call.

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          10 months ago

          Other than gaming what about for programming and daily task? because im not planning to play any games on this laptop tbh, and whats a good screen color gamut that is good to buy?

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            10 months ago

            Good color gamut will make even simplest thing like your wallpaper look more vibrant, so it’s not about gaming.

            For coding, programming, rendering, i think the specs (CPU and GPU) is powerful enough… maybe need more RAM if you heavily encode videos, raw images, and running virtualizations.

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    10 months ago

    I got a similar computer with an AMD processor instead of an i5 and it was 1600$… so def buy it, if you want it. 3050 is pretty great imo, just get more RAM for it, I suggest 24 Gb and you should be set for most games with mid/high graphics presets.

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    10 months ago

    3050 is old generation go for 4050, 4060 or a 3060 minimum. 3050 for 540$ is too much, u should not pay 500 for a fricken 3050.

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    10 months ago

    i own the GTX 1650 version that i bought last year at that price.

    games work fine. add a second 8 GB RAM stick. the screen wobbles a lot, not very bright, low colour accuracy. battery kinda sucks. overall low build quality. when you carry it by your side, carry it hinge up. if you carry it hinge down, your grip can bend the back of the laptop by the hinges. but my brother can play games 40h/week so it gets the job done at low cost. i don’t remember off hand if this supports USB-C charging, but i can find out if you want to know

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    10 months ago

    I have checked on the laptop specs and I am pretty sure most of the programming applications or softwares would run on the laptop with those exact specs.

    However, it also depends on what type of software you are planning to use. I am sure that the graphics card would support ray-tracing which is used in Solidworks, CAD.

    The 4GB of VRAM offered by the RTX 3050 should be sufficient for most programming scenarios. Unless you are working on extremely large-scale projects or dealing with graphics-intensive applications, the available VRAM should not pose a significant limitation. However, it is worth noting that certain programming tasks, such as machine learning or data analysis, may benefit from having more VRAM. In such cases, programmers might consider opting for a graphics card with higher VRAM capacity.

    The 2048 CUDA cores and high boost clock speed of the RTX 3050 contribute to its computational prowess. CUDA cores are parallel processors that accelerate certain types of calculations, making them essential for tasks like data processing and scientific simulations. The RTX 3050’s CUDA core count, combined with its clock speed, allows it to handle programming workloads efficiently.

    In conclusion, the RTX 3050 is indeed a capable graphics card for programming purposes. Its specifications, including 4GB of VRAM, 2048 CUDA cores, and a high boost clock speed, make it more than sufficient for most programming tasks. However, it is crucial to consider the specific requirements of your programming projects and the languages/frameworks you work with. If you primarily engage in graphics-intensive or machine learning tasks, you may want to explore options with higher VRAM capacity. Nonetheless, the RTX 3050 offers an excellent balance of performance and affordability, making it a suitable choice for many programmers.

    Sources:

    – NVIDIA official website

    – Programming forums and discussions

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    10 months ago

    i wanted to buy the more expensive version, but i heard that the screen wobble is insane, instead of that i bought the acer swift x yesterday, waiting for it to arrive

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    10 months ago

    good price but not a deal. it’s the price what it should be normally. and they go max for 650.

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    10 months ago

    I own this exact one and works just fine. Playing gears 5 now and zero issues. Scored it a few weeks ago for $20 cheaper then that. I think its a fine machine at a good price.

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    10 months ago

    i haven’t used it but the price looks pretty good. can play most of games and program with ease

    144 hertz screen with that price is actually pretty good. the problem is the ram, 8gb for this system is not balanced, upgrading is to 16 or 32 will make it perfect

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          10 months ago

          If you are getting win11 not MacBook pro, makes sense to have that option. Now and again you could just press a button without moving a mouse. Sometimes you might want to test a mobile app.

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            10 months ago

            im fine with both mouse and keyboard, i just don’t want that big ass screen become dirty and have finger Spots on it

            if i use touch screen on laptop, probably I’ll clean the screen every two or three hours

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      10 months ago

      My brother moved out so he left some stuff and he left an 8gb ddr4 behind it should be easy to upgrade it right?

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        10 months ago

        im not sure but i think most of laptops only has one ram slots,that means you can’t use 2 of 8gb rams

        upgrading ram is pretty simply, just by searching on net, you’ll get hundreds of videos. and if you’re still worried you can give it to some repair shops, shouldn’t cost much

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          10 months ago

          I asked them, it has extra slots for upgrading rams so it should be easy thanks men i appreciate it

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          10 months ago

          Gaming laptops have at least 2 RAM Slots. The issue is this may be DDR5 RAM

          -Intel Employee

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            10 months ago

            even if it was ddr5 , it should mentioned in the title of the product,

            -Intel Employee

            😂ok cool

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              10 months ago

              It’s usually not posted in the title but it should be in the details. 13th gen typically has DDR5 unless it s a budget model but RTX 30 series was usually paired with DDR4 so it’s really a toss up here.

              Also yes the intel employee bit is relevant. I work in sales so I’m privy to a lot of this information

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          10 months ago

          Most laptops have 2 slots, but I’d suggest getting a matching stick if possible. Some laptops have soldered ram, so watch out for that.

      • Ill_Care_6013@alien.topOPB
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        10 months ago

        Tbh I don’t care about gaming tho im buying this laptop for programming and video editing I already have a ps5 so I don’t like playing on pc/laptop

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            10 months ago

            You’re right but im totally a newbie to video editing so I don’t think i need 32gb ram, i already have an extra 8gb ram from my brother

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        10 months ago

        im not sure what game is Alan wake 2. if its not released yet, then it might have some optimizing problems

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            10 months ago

            oh it’s Been few months from release, some games might have bad optimization even after release for a few updates

            here is a list of Alan wake 2 fps with different graphic cards, https://images.app.goo.gl/FcbYAsMJPNnRfkY18 . Just by looking at the results you can say the game is just too heavy/not optimized

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              10 months ago

              Most newer games will likely NOT be optimized.

              Dev’s make sure the game work for certain hardware sets - and that’s it. Make it work first, maybe optimize later.

              We’re in swing of PS4/X1 games no longer made and we got new games utilizing new hardware, tech, and configs only, such as PS5/XSX. So, on PC - gamers are gonna need power on that level of power basically.

              For example - Alan Wake 2 is using Mesh Shaders which basically make it require 6gb RTX 2060 GPU’s and 8gb AMD RX 6600 XT and up. https://www.techpowerup.com/315149/psa-alan-wake-ii-runs-on-older-gpus-mesh-shaders-not-required#:~:text=AMD’s%20Radeon%20RX%206000%20series,5700%20XT%20delivers%20unplayable%20results.

              https://www.pcgamer.com/mesh-shaders-explained/#:~:text=Unreal%20Engine%205%20uses%20mesh,system%2C%20not%20as%20a%20replacement.

              Those console systems have 16gb RAM for VRAM and regular-RAM, in its shared-RAM pool - even Steam Decks and the wannabes like ROG Ally have that. So, guess what? Dev’s can utilize that 16gb shared-RAM for whatever, without much care. They want it to use 8+gb VRAM out of the 16GB shared-RAM, they can.

              We pay for it on our end (as consumers), as NVidia also keeps skimping on VRAM-count for GPU’s, as they just keep trying to make profit after profit here. We need better cards w/ more VRAM in the lower tiers namely. If you want better GPU’s w/ more VRAM, NVidia makes gamers pay through the nose for them.

              We literally had 8gb GPU’s in the desktop GTX 1070 for years…yet even in the RTX 3070 desktop some 2 gen’s later, that still had 8gb VRAM. That should’ve had 12gb VRAM at least, TBH - as even some games like RE Village, RE2 Remake, RE3 Remake, RE7 Gold, and Watch Dogs Legion all could use 10+gb VRAM even at 1080p…and these ain’t the most recent of titles.

              It’s only gonna get worse, as you have stuff like Lumen in Unreal Engine 5. We have games like Immortals of Aveum and Remnant 2 which basically require DLSS, FSR, XESS, or some upscaler to run worthwhile (i.e. at 60fps) - since most of these are Ray-Tracing based and/or might support Mesh Shaders.

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        10 months ago

        yeah its 3050 and it’s expected

        yet I believe 3050 can run at least 70% of AAA with 60+ fps in ANY settings