Apart from the two games with a collective daily peak of concurrent players on Steam sitting at 150 poor human souls, where are the FSR3 games?
But scratch FSR3 - where is FSR3.1 that would properly work with VRR screens and therefore could ACTUALLY be beneficial for people who can clearly see non-VRR judder?
AMD dropped FSR 3 implementation on those games, to meet deadline they told us about when they first showed us FSR 3. That was appetizer from their side, and now we’re open for waiting game again, could be Q1 2024 as they told us, could be end of 2024, no one knows. But Nvidia gained my respect more, as selling hardware with working features since day 1 is better for consumer, then selling hardware with upcoming features tgat aren’t here yet year later since release, and nobody knows when they will be
The Q1 2024 date is not for FSR3, it was for AFMF. FSR3 is already available for devs to implement. Sadly it’s been over a month and no more games added it yet which does not look good at all. Modders have added DLSS3 FG within hours of Starfield’s release yet no dev has managed to add FSR3 in weeks.
I wouldn’t put FSR3 in my game even if it was easy - it’s a lot of dev work laid out for what is essentially an alpha feature which certainly has a lot of issues that may be mistaken as bugs in your game or issues that are your fault from the 99% of users who don’t know every single quirk. It is absolutely not a “press button and have better experience” feature - it has tons of potential to ruin your gameplay and people might not understand how so or why.
Beta refers to feature complete, and features like VRR support are critical.
FSR3.2 or something if and when it works properly, yes people should jump on that.
And I think sadly we will not see any movement from devs this year too.
I am always rooting for AMD but this is entirely their fault. They do not seem to engage with devs or the community to promote FSR3 when we know it could be a game changer for many non-RTX gpu owners.
If they neglect it like the FSR 2 upscaling shimmering issues then more and more people will turn to Nvidia in the long run.
Not just non-RTX. All non 4000-series owners. FSR 3 has the potential to prolong the life of the 20 and 30-series. The RTX 3080 and 3090 may well increase in value when FSR 3 starts being delivered.
FSR framegen breaks both DLSS and Reflex, replacing DLSS with a much worse alternative and offering no replacement to Reflex even on AMD cards - a non-negotiable core feature for GPU-bound gaming which only becomes more mandatory with added latency from frame gen.
There is no game where i would turn FSR framegen on because it means either giving up those features or not having them present to begin with on a GPU-heavy game, which is not a good experience.
I mean Nvidia was in the same boat with their RTX 20xx series. Only a few Raytracing games that all made poor use of it like Tomb raider Shadows and battlefield V meh reflections. Let’s not even mention dlss 1.0 being useless.
It’s a shame the two games are just not that interesting and barely had any hype buildup. They still need their cyberpunk 2077 or Alan Wake 2 or Witcher 3/portal/metro Exodus remake.
That’s the thing. Where is AMDs crown jewel to show off their products strengths? Is it … Starfield?
They made a big deal out of it before release. I was at gamescom and they namedropped AMD during the presentation.
Part of the “optimisation” gap at release was from allways enabled SAM vs not whitelisted R-Bar from NVIDIA.
Not sure if that counts as optimized for AMD GPU’s. :)
The game does still look like an outlier with CPU and GPU scaling, as if its full of engine bottlenecks and bugs.
It’s funny how starfield after getting DLSS and FG modded in became a fairly nice showcase for nvidia.
Yep Nvidia definitely overcharges for their stuff but they can get away with it and it’s somewhat justified with the feature/software stack that they offer.
Even if AMD eventually matches Nvidia on features it always seems like it’s worse/incomplete versions and it can take months or years later for that stuff to even arrive.
I get that the discrete graphics space is probably low priority for AMD at this point but their effort in the last few years has been kind of pathetic. I honestly hope Intel continues to make strides in the market to become a better competitor for Nvidia.
Yes fully agree. I was fully sold on AMDs presentation when they launched 7900 series, and when I had a choice between buying 7900XT and 4070Ti, I chose 7900XT because of feature parity AMD promised us, and there was that big uprage about VRAM too back then as I remember. Year later (almost) I’m here, without proper FSR3.0 support they promised us, RT performance is there but it isn’t if we compare, and I sit and think that for my use case I shoid have chosen 4070Ti back then. Tough, I love Adrenaline, that’s a piece of what I missed most when I was on my 1070, where instead of 3 apps that I need to use I could use one.
Never buy a product based on future promises.
Bro I was in your same position a year ago, and now too. The energy consumption is 25% more on the amd side with only 5/10% more raster performance. I went for a full amd build and I will ever complain cpu/mobo performance. But I see when I try to turn on RT and lose 70% of the performance… is heartbreaking. But I think that the real problem isn’t amd side… look at Alan wake 2: when you turn off rt, it kicks rt software and it’s really good… I know that path rt it’s the Ferrari of gaming but I need 1600$ gpu for running it! So I’m pretty satisfied and I really want to see how fsr will kick the ass
Even a 4070 can play Alan wake with PT.
the VRAM issue is still real tho at least for 4k and maybe even in the future for 1440p. you shouldnt feel like you made a bad decision at least.
That’s sad to hear tbh, I still don’t understand why Nvidia cuts down so heavily in VRAM. Well, most likely to move their 4090 is most rational explanation
They also had audacity to print FSR 3 on boxes for months already :D