• Shapes_in_Clouds@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I’ve been waiting for iPad Pro with OLED for so many years now. Instabuy when it comes out. I have a gen 1 12.9 inch and really really want an 11" Pro. I just can’t stand going from the beautiful OLED on my phone to the LCD on iPad. Even if it’s a good screen on the Pro it’s instantly noticeable.

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    10 months ago

    So, the M4 MacBook Pro next year in 2024?

    I am more than happy to readily skip the current disappointment.

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      10 months ago

      In a new investor memo seen by MacRumors, Pu said Apple intends to update the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with OLED screens sometime in 2026

      From the article. Probably M6 at that point, and likely with a chassis refresh.

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      10 months ago

      I wouldn’t call the current MacBooks a “disappointment” necessarily……perplexing in some regards perhaps but not disappointing

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        10 months ago

        The M3 and M3 max have both had good improvements but I could see why some would be disappointed with the M3 pro since it didn’t get much of a performance uplift in comparison to the other two. This is a good year for the max buyers though.

      • Avieshek@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Nah, it is. People were postponing their MacBook Pro purchases in anticipation for M3 with 3nm fabrication only now to rather get the M2 Pro instead when the M3 is right in front of them which was purported to come next year’s WWDC with the exception of those who’s employer is ready to pay for the top of the line M3 Max.

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      10 months ago

      This man. There is nothing wrong with selling base model MacBook air or iMac with 8 gigs. If you market a product as “pro” targeting professionals or power users , 16gigs should be the base memory for those models.

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        10 months ago

        If you market a product as “pro” targeting professionals or power users , 16gigs should be the base memory for those models.

        Why? If they make the part for iPads and MBAs anyway, why not offer the choice of a lower-price model? You can’t conceive of a person who doesn’t need the extra memory but would like the better display and extra ports?

        It’s absolutely too expensive by probably at least $200, but that’s different than saying it shouldn’t even exist.

      • Mapleess@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Yep, but people are still hell-bent on Apple giving 16GB for entry level MBs since very other Windows manufacturer does it. Heck, even comments in the post about a low-cost 12 inch MB had people saying Apple better release it with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage. Not going to happen…

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          10 months ago

          but people are still hell-bent on Apple giving 16GB for entry level MBs since very other Windows manufacturer does it

          Honestly, if there was a Windows laptop which had decent build quality with internals and software that didn’t break, and the OS was more like Windows 7, I’d just buy that. The specs in Windows laptops are very good at this point. It’s just everything else that’s the problem. I don’t want to pay the apple tax, but because of these shitty Windows laptops I’m forced to.

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            10 months ago

            I recently spent 3 days debugging the WiFi on my Windows PC because it wouldn’t connect to the internet at all through one of my satellites, and would not connect to certain domains (specifically Epic and Windows Store download services) from the base router. The problem ended up being fixed by assigning a static IP.

            I’ve spent tons of time fighting with all sorts of other weird problems in the past, often sound related. My wife’s work computer (a PC) refuses to do sound output over DP or HDMI, for example.

            Point being, Windows machines, due to the OS alone, are worth several hundred dollars less than Macs to me because they take so much babysitting and can break in weird ways at a moment’s notice.

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      10 months ago

      They might… but probably for $200 more than the current base price so it will be basically the same thing but with less options.

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    10 months ago

    OLED is nice to have, it will certainly bring a price hike too. So please release 12.9 Air. The only reason I bought Pro was purely because of the screen size.

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      10 months ago

      SteamDeck didn’t increase their price with an OLED display. No reason for Apple to do so as well. They can afford it.

      • Mapleess@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Yes, this is the dream, but personally, I’ve been thinking more and more if I actually need it since it’s just used to consume content now due to the convenient size.

        Hopefully jelly scrolling is out.

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          10 months ago

          Other iPads are too large to comfortable use for most of what I want to do - and iPhone is a little small. The mini is just my preferred form factor and perfect for a tablet imo. If I wanted bigger, I’d use my MacBook Air

          A lot of it centers around using two handed touch controls, or having it one handed to carry around.

          Some of my primary use cases for the device:

          • playing games (other iPads are too large to use touch controls comfortably)
          • watching videos/content
          • reading news/books
          • cooking recipes & recipe manager app
          • managing notes and reminders (I use heavily) - would be good for managing a shopping list too in the actual store
          • it can serve as an emergency backup for VMware horizon if my work laptop isn’t working or when traveling, iPhone is too small and I don’t need a full size backup
          • takings notes/sketches
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        10 months ago

        iPad sales iirc Mini = 7% compared to say one of the Pro models at about 28%.

        I think Apple’s Pricing Ladder would suggest:

        • Mini
        • Regular
        • Air
        • Pro - OLED only?

        Again for the price laddering and then also sales volume.

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          10 months ago

          I feel like sales would increase a little if the mini wasn’t so gimped compared to the heavier hitting models.

          Also regular is 1st before the mini in that list

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      10 months ago

      Apple is already making ridiculous markup on their products, I don’t think an OLED would make for a huge price hike honestly, and it would make their products even more enticing.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think there will be a 12.9 Air, just because Apple knows people will pay more solely for the screen size.

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        10 months ago

        That’s not a known fact. The price is “painful”, but that doesn’t mean they’re losing money per unit

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        10 months ago

        And despite that they still don’t prevent you from installing Windows, or “sideloading” games from other stores… but ultimately, they don’t have to because they know that Steam is an incredible storefront that people want to use.

        I don’t get why Apple is so concerned about sideloading eating into their profits. If the App Store is truly as good as they say it is, they shouldn’t have any problem keeping developers on board, and if they do, then clearly, it isn’t as good as other options

        Valve may sell Steam Deck at a loss, but they know people will willingly use Steam enough for them to cover those costs.

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      10 months ago

      Ditto, and I’d buy bigger if I could. But I don’t need the processor at all. But they also know that, and we know Apple will keep capitalizing on it.

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    10 months ago

    Hard pass from me for OLED on MacBook screens. Much prefer mini-led. Nearly the same contrast, with better uniformity and no risk of burn in.

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    10 months ago

    I wish they’d give us a big ipad with a nice display for all the people who use their ipad mainly for social media and movies/series. I feel like there’s lots op people who’d love a 12.9 inch ipad but don’t need an M-series processor.

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      10 months ago

      My guess Apple will keep the Price Ladder and charge more for the high end for people who will spend more anyway and want Premium features eg OLED.

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      10 months ago

      They did it with the regular iPhone (14 & 15 Plus) and the M2 MacBook Air (15 inch). So there is a good chance they may bring a bigger, cheaper iPad Air eventually.

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    10 months ago

    Have they addressed the issue of potential screen burn-in with OLED? Macs may be more susceptible bc of static images displayed when personal settings are set to not to shut off the screen during inactivity.

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    10 months ago

    Anyone knows enough to tell me if OLED MacBook pros are supposed to look better than the current mini LED screens on the 14/16 MacBook Pros ?

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    10 months ago

    I wonder if we’re ever going to get an OLED Pro Display or Studio Display.

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    10 months ago

    What about PWM flicker? Current LCD displays may be better for extended use, unless Apple uses OLED displays.

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    10 months ago

    OLED iPad still useless unless they allow side loading. It’s an oversized iPhone.

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        10 months ago

        Students would like to have a word…

        I can tell you from personal experience that you’re blatantly wrong. They are found in droves on college and university campuses as they are super versatile. From writing to storing every textbook you’d need all in one slab of metal and glass.

        I got my iPad Pro 1st year and haven’t looked back. 90% of textbooks I have needed I could get digital and writing on PDFs for lectures is essential for my learning.

        Look, they may serve no use for you, but don’t parade yourself into thinking they must then serve no purpose.

        And on the argument of “oh it’s just a big iPhone” is laughable these days.

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      10 months ago

      Apple is of course bumping up HARDWARE Specs to increase Price all the while ignoring the biggest Value-Added = Software/OS which most users would benefit from. Agree it’s primarily aimed at higher prices and price laddering.